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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Reloading tinkers |
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:04 am
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Location: Central CT
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Hammerbill,
Being completely ignorant of the 'kinks books' ....what are they?
Or is this like ocean front property in South Dakota? |
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:56 am
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Joined: 24 Jun 2013
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Location: canandaigua - western n.y. (formerly deerhunter)
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Mark ... Gunsnith Kinks : Compilation of shop guys who came up with various easy/ odd fixes for problems they ran into - published by Bob Brownell . Vary interesting reading even today . (Brownell of the Brownells gun parts accessories etc we know today ) |
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:01 am
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Thanks for the info 16gaDavis |
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Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:42 am
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Location: Victoria BC & Peoria AZ
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Hammer bill wrote: |
I've taken a small electrics motor out of a fan from a wood burner. Mounted it very close to the side of my mec 9000. Made a small counter weight for the shaft just so you can hardly feel the vibration. But the powder drops are very very close from one to another. Very constant drops
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I tape a small air pump from an aquarium to both my PW and my Dillon 650 powder hopper. It vibrates without a counter weight. My Spolar has a motor and counter weight as standard equipment. It helps with powder drop consistency and primer feeding. |
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Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:42 pm
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HaweaterHal wrote: |
Hammer bill wrote: |
I've taken a small electrics motor out of a fan from a wood burner. Mounted it very close to the side of my mec 9000. Made a small counter weight for the shaft just so you can hardly feel the vibration. But the powder drops are very very close from one to another. Very constant drops
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I tape a small air pump from an aquarium to both my PW and my Dillon 650 powder hopper. It vibrates without a counter weight. My Spolar has a motor and counter weight as standard equipment. It helps with powder drop consistency and primer feeding.
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It don't take much vibration to have consistency. Just enough you can hardly feel yourself |
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Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:10 am
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Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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Location: West MI
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I did grind the tabs out of my spindex and it helped alot.
Zig/zag bent wire coat hanger fastened (tape) to the charging handle, fishing weight helps, coat hanger wire yoke between the bottles transfers the vibration to the powder bottle perch. Was looking to add vibration to the powder drop but passively. Been up and running since Fall (steelmaster press as well) probably ~800 shells with the technology and the drop consistency was well worth the tinkering, especially the 10ga Steel loads.
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Wasn't going to post this modification since it looks pretty wonky but it works very well so what the heck, let the ridicule begin. |
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Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:09 am
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Joined: 15 Apr 2007
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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Brilliant !!!
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Last edited by skeettx on Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:55 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:56 am
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Joined: 09 Feb 2015
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What ever works go for it. |
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Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:33 am
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Joined: 16 Jul 2015
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Location: Hudson,Wy
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Wile E. Coyote would be jealous! His stuff doesn't ever work. |
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Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:05 pm
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Joined: 10 Jul 2017
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John Singer wrote: |
One tip that I can offer is to obtain either cafeteria trays or a cookie sheet for each reloader. I then mount the tray beneath the loader. With this, any shot or powder spill is contained.
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I use a sheet of poster paper underneath of my station.
I have it folded down the middle, so when I get done and putting everything back up, I can fold it over some and the powder goes down the crease and I just pour the spilled powder directly back into my jugs.
It may would surprise you how much powder is lost due to spillage.
And if you're as greedy as I am with powder, it pays off. |
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:04 am
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Joined: 13 Feb 2007
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Location: Somewhere north of Atlanta
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Dave In AZ wrote: |
Lots of the changes others have mentioned.
Pencil eraser shoved in the center hole of station 3 on Mec 9000. You don't need that hole, and the eraser massively helps if you get a shell with no primer and powder comes out bottom-- now it just sits on top of station and doesn't fall anywhere, you can just dust-bust it up. This is a "MUST DO" 10 second improvement if you've ever spilled powder...
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Wow, thanks for that tip! I never really thought about that hole having no purpose other than to make a mess! |
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:11 am
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Joined: 08 Aug 2011
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Location: Central CT
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If you look at any MEC press there are holes in the shell plate wherever there is a station. The reason is so that a trapped piece of shot(or other debris) won't set off the new primer when you run the tool head down.
A pencil eraser is a great idea for no mess when there is no primer. |
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:42 pm
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Location: SW Ohio
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I use a MEC 600 for 16 ga hunting loads, have the adjustable charge bar and was having a heck of a time getting the drops I wanted. Would adjust the bar and just cycle the powder, no shot, till I got the drop I wanted. Then when I went to load a complete shell, the drop was significantly heavier. Finally dawned on me it was the repeated cycling of the machine, until the powder drop and after the shot dropped. Was causing more powder to settle in the charge bar. So I started "dry cycling" the machine 5 times, to mimic the loading process then measured the drop. Once I did that the charges stayed pretty close when measured while actually loading.
I have not found a good way to "drop" Steel powder, so I still hand weigh each charge. Don't use a lot of it so not a big deal. |
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:07 pm
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Location: Minnesota and Florida
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rdja -- Cycling the loader to mimic the vibration of the full process when setting up a powder drop -- Good idea! I do that exact same thing on my reloaders, single-stage or progressive, whether I'm using the adjustable charge-bar or one with powder bushings.
Also, just as you do, I manually meter and measure Alliant Steel as well as some of the other really large-flake powders, like 800X. I use an old Herter's crank-type measure for the basic drop, and then tune up the powder weight on the scale, using a powder dribbling technique. For the few shells I load with Steel, it really doesn't slow me down much -- I'm not loading hundreds of them.
Cheers!
Tony |
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Mon Mar 12, 2018 3:18 pm
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Joined: 02 Sep 2010
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Location: SW Ohio
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Tony,
Agree we you that hand measuring Steel is not that bad. One question I have, maybe its just my scale but I have found a few times that when I dribble the powder on the scale, get the correct amount (that entails waiting a good amount time for the scale to catch up), then I dump it in an empty hull, reset the scale and re-measure and the amount is heavier than I wanted. Not by much but sometimes up to .5-.7 grain.
Any thought about that?
Nate |
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