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< 16ga. Guns ~ 870 steel receiver 16 GA |
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:05 pm
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Joined: 12 Feb 2018
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Location: West-central Missouri
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Is the 870 in 16 gauge just a 12 gauge shimmed down to 16? was looking for a bargain 16 and found this one (not a bargain at $349). |
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:23 pm
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Joined: 15 Apr 2007
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Location: Amarillo, Texas
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Well kinda
The 12 gauge is built on a 16 gauge size frame.
The 12, 16 and early 20 gauge guns were built on the same size frame
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Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:28 pm
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Location: West-central Missouri
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Thanks for the info. That explains the weight... |
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:36 am
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Location: Lancaster county, Pa
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look at the barrel some of the Remington 16 gauge barrels were built out of 12 gauge blanks. A lot of the weight in the new Remington 16's is in the barrel. |
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:04 am
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Joined: 04 Jun 2009
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Location: N. Shore, mn
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IMO the early 870 16 ga were lighter than "modern" 870-s. The fluted bbl sems lighter to me. I snagged a 1950 870 16 ga last Winter in nice shape. If I had a scale I could weight it. |
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:58 am
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Joined: 12 Feb 2015
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Location: Oregon
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It depends on whether it is an Express or a Wingmaster, to determine if it is a bargain or not. I paid $350 for a newer Wingmaster with screw in chokes, and felt like I got a heck of a deal. It is a big, rather heavy gun, but that helps when I shoot targets with it. |
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:18 am
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Location: Central CT
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My 1962 Model 870 in 16 ga., 28” modified barrel weighs in at 6 lbs. 14 oz. |
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:42 am
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Joined: 14 Sep 2016
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Location: KC,MO
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I have a ‘51 w/ a 28” field barrel (no rib) that was 6 lb 8 oz before I shaved the pistol grip stock down to an English grip. I have long considered having the barrel cut to 24”, but never quite pulled the trigger, in part because I had the choke opened to a skeet II and I don’t know if I’d have to pay for screw chokes with a cut barrel. It is one of my primary upland guns, especially for rain, quail hunting in thickets, etc. |
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:37 pm
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Joined: 12 Feb 2018
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Location: West-central Missouri
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The gun was Wing-master and serial number was 736XXX range, 28 inch fixed full barrel. Not bad, but not really what I was looking for (wanted a leather holster) just saw a 16ga tag and had to check it out. |
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Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:12 pm
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Joined: 31 May 2009
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Location: Orofino, Idaho
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skeettx wrote: |
Well kinda
The 12 gauge is built on a 16 gauge size frame.
The 12, 16 and early 20 gauge guns were built on the same size frame
Mike
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Sorry, I own a 16 Ga. M31L and a 1950's era 16 Ga. 870 and the M31's receiver is definitely smaller/narrower. The 870 shows a definite accommadation to the smaller 16 Ga. barrel...As I understand it; re-tooled M31 16 Ga. barrels in that era.
Yes, the 870 12 Ga. receiver is far from bulky, but I believe calling it true 16 Ga. is a STRETCH.
Friendly disagreement...NO offense intended. |
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