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< 16ga. Guns ~ Would you say 7 lb.s is too heavy for a 16ga O/U grouse gun? |
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:55 am
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I am looking at picking up another Citori White Lightining, with 26" barrels. It's listed at 7 lb.'s. Any opinions on whether that's too heavy for a ruffed grouse getter?
What else would you suggest in it's place?
8mmFan |
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:22 am
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7 lbs. might be too heavy for some and too light for others.
Weight for a gun is up to you.
I used to hunt ruffs with an A5 Sweet Sixteen and I never thought that I needed a lighter gun. I have missed birds with a too light gun, but never missed one because the shotgun was too heavy.
How much faster will a 5 lb. gun come up compared to an 8 lb. gun? 30 milleseconds? |
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:22 am
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Unfortunately, Only you can answer that question.
Personally, yes it is too heavy for me to consider as a bird gun. But I’m a lighter is better purist. 6ish lbs would be my goal, and no more than 6.25lbs. I’m also settling in to the two trigger camp, so I’d personally give the gun two strikes...
Try finding a citori feather or superlight? |
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:56 am
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Location: South Eastern PA
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I'd say 7 lbs is on the upper end of weight but especially if it is barrel heavy, which it should not be at 26 inches so it really all comes down to how it feels to you.
Another thing is how it will mostly get used.
Game farm, - no big deal
Flat land within a mile from truck. - no big deal
All day long on 45 degree vertical chucker hunt - take your Ithaca 37 featherweight instead and save yourself some misery |
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:53 am
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Let's see, are you 6'5" or 5'2"
Do you weigh 125 or 250
Do you do work involving lifting or sitting at a desk
Do you practice with the guns you will use hunting.
Are you old or young?
Are you hunting in the morning or afternoon?
See above, correct, depends on the user
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:15 am
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My 26" barreled white lightening comes in at 6 lbs 14 oz. I'm 70 and I could certainly use it for a grouse gun. However, it wouldn't be my first choice. Like others, I'd rather keep it to between 5.25-6.25 lbs.
If you need a light 16ga O/U, the Franchi Instinct SL in 16ga is supposed to weight 5.8 lbs. Even if they are off a little, it should come in around 6 lbs.
If action isn't important and you can abide an auto, the current Browning Sweet 16 is advertised at 5.75 lbs and that is what mine actually weights.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:56 pm
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I hunted grouse last season with a 7.25 lb SxS .in 16 guage (Stevens Model 5100). It worked well for me. It balances well and I shoot it well.
You need to make that determination. |
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:25 pm
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Location: Ohio..where ruffed grouse were
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:43 pm
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Guys,
Thanks for the thoutful replies. You're right; there are a lot of variables that I didn't put into that post. I'm 50, fairly fit, average build and height. Carrying the Citori around all day is "plenty doable" for me. That said, I like carrying less weight all day as much as the next guy.
A few of you had posted before I hopped on a plane this morning; so I was able to think about your replies on the flight. Now, finishing up reading all of your posts, I came to Bill's post about the Franchi Instinct SL at 5.8 lbs. That sounds more like it to me.
I just called Scheel's; they've got a few in stock. When I get back home I'm going to check that shotgun out and see how it fits me. It's right about the same price as the Citori White Lightning. Seems it has an aluminum receiver, while the Citori has steel. I guess my next F-150 will be made out of aluminum too. Seems to be the trend.
THANK YOU again, all of you, for taking the time to give me your thoughts and observations.
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:55 pm
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Location: Ohio..where ruffed grouse were
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Good to have a plan, best of luck with any scattergun chosen.
I do wonder the responses if you had asked the question “is 5.8# too light for a ruffed grouse getter?”
How many folks would have posed the same qualifing questions, as gathered by the 7# question?
I would wager that most answers would have immediately been......”No, you will carry it more than you shoot it...ha, ha”.
Again, enjoy the bluing off any gun that rings all the right bells. |
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:36 pm
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Location: York, PA
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8mmFan wrote: |
I am looking at picking up another Citori White Lightining, with 26" barrels. It's listed at 7 lb.'s. Any opinions on whether that's too heavy for a ruffed grouse getter?
What else would you suggest in it's place?
8mmFan
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For grouse, I love my Citori Superlite Feather. It may be heresy, but I prefer my 20 gauge superlite feather to the 16 gauge SLF for grouse. |
_________________ Browning A5 Sweet Sixteen
Browning Citori Superlite Feather 16 ga.
Merkel 1620 (straight stock and single trigger) |
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Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:10 pm
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I'm 6'-4" 220 and my 28" Gran Lightning is 7-7.5# and it's the most balanced shotgun that I've owned. It's quick enough in the grouse woods and sometimes too quick in the pheasant fields.
Have tried the "Light is Right" way with shotguns and rifles and guess what? I'm back to lugging around those dang old boat anchors that everyone else has sold to get a lighter gun. Advantage me. |
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 7:40 am
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YES. |
_________________ shoot quick but take your time! |
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:22 pm
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Citori_16,
You won’t get mine. |
_________________ Mark |
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:55 pm
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I like my 16's at 6 to 6-1/2lbs. That said, my first ever double gun is a Stevens 5100 16ga that's a hair under 7lbs, and I sometimes think I shoot it better'n any of 'em. Don't worry about a few ounces; concentrate on how the gun feels to you.
Now, that single trigger thing... |
_________________ I feel a warm spot in my heart when I meet a man whiling away an afternoon...and stopping to chat with him, hear the sleek lines of his double gun whisper "Sixteen." - Gene Hill, Shotgunner's Notebook |
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