Author |
Message |
< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Fiocchi High Velocity vs Federal Game Shok |
|
Posted:
Tue May 14, 2019 4:23 pm
|
|
|
Joined: 15 Mar 2019
Posts: 13
|
|
Hello everyone. New member here. Bought my first 16 gauge a few weeks ago but haven’t even shot it yet. I picked up one of the new Browning Sweet 16’s with a 26” barrel. I’ve been looking for a reasonably priced game load and I’d like to shoot 1 1/8 ounces of 7 1/2’s at ruffed grouse in northern Wisconsin, and 1 1/8 ounces of 6’s at sharp tails in North Dakota.
I found an on-line source offering fair prices on cases of both the Fiocchi High Velocity and Federal Game Shok, but I thought I’d check with you 16 gauge experts for your opinions before I make a purchase. I should preface my request for opinions by stating that I have no reloading equipment and I have little or no concern over how well or how many times the hulls can be reloaded. I’m strictly wondering about the quality of their components and their reputation for proper cycling through a semi-automatic. I’d be grateful if you can give me your thoughts on both of these, and which one you would choose. I’m sure you guys are aware the federals are a little more expensive, and I’m wondering if that equates to better performance.
I know the Fiocchi Golden Pheasants are also very popular, albeit a lot more expensive, and I’m also wondering if the nickel plated shot is all that separates the High Velocity from the Golden Pheasant in the Fiocchi line up, and if it is worth the dramatic increase in cost to upgrade to nickel plated shot, if that’s the only difference.
Thanks for your help! |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Tue May 14, 2019 5:39 pm
|
|
|
Member
Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 9469
Location: Amarillo, Texas
|
|
Hello Thinblueline
Welcome on your first posting
Sorry, I can not answer your question all I have left in 16GA semis is an OLD A-5, 3 shot and a Rem 1100 and they gobble everthing.
Mike |
_________________
,
USAF RET 1971-95 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:22 pm
|
|
|
|
The 1 1/8 oz Federals have always performed well for me on wild pheasants. No experience with the Fiocchi's other than the Golden Pheasants. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Tue May 14, 2019 6:39 pm
|
|
|
Member
Joined: 08 Oct 2006
Posts: 1395
Location: Tappahannock, Virginia
|
|
I’d see if your Walmart has the federal game shok 1oz loads in stock. Then head to a patterning board and run a few rounds of clays. If they leave you wanting for anything at that point, I’d be surprised. The cost difference for the extra 1/8 ounce likely won’t get you any more results, but you could test from there if you need to. Maybe a chukar preserve hunt next fall? I find 7.5’s in federal game shok are very adequate out to 40-45 yards on chukar.
The fiocchi loads I have used are ok, but I prefer the Federals most of the current large loading offerings. Many RST fans here and if your looking at Golden Pheasants, the RST copper plated 1200fps is in that range. The shorter shell is no handicap in the 1oz load.
Welcome to the board, and enjoy the new sweet sixteen... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Tue May 14, 2019 8:30 pm
|
|
|
Member
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 1700
Location: Minnesota
|
|
Great gun pick for your first 16ga. You might want to try the Remington gameload 1oz too. I've used them on both grouse and pheasants. |
_________________ Great dog, Great friends,Great guns |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Wed May 15, 2019 3:20 am
|
|
|
Joined: 28 Dec 2017
Posts: 88
Location: Northern Utah
|
|
I have shot both of those loads. I prefer the federal but on paper both patterned well enough to kill birds. I like those federal loads in 6's for late season chukar.
Ive had success with the 1 oz load also as someone else suggested. I like that load for ruffed grouse. |
_________________ Bret
https://bretwonnacott.com/
A Millionaire's Dream - a novel |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Wed May 15, 2019 4:17 am
|
|
|
Joined: 22 Feb 2019
Posts: 63
Location: United States
|
|
my experience with plated shot has shown that is is no better than black shot. the Federal loads are very good. The Fiocchi have a little more recoil,not an issue with your gun, so the price may the deciding factor. |
_________________ This is really Byrdog with a new E-Mail address.
I make the Shortcut Shotshell Cutter. PM me here to inquire |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Thu May 16, 2019 9:04 am
|
|
|
Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2007
Posts: 3373
Location: The Great Northwet
|
|
They are both great, but I'd lean towards the Federals. And they're purple too, which is of course very important. |
_________________ Gun art: www.marklarsongunart.com
Gallery art: www.marklarsonart.com
The man's prayer from the Red Green Show: "I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to. I guess." |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Fri May 17, 2019 10:09 am
|
|
|
Joined: 16 Jul 2015
Posts: 2126
Location: Hudson,Wy
|
|
I'm with old dog on this one. Often times the plated shot I have encountered was actually softer than good 5% antimony "black" lead. Of course ammo companies do not have the decency to advertise antimony content, so you pay your money and take your chances. The pattern board will tell you the truth. Try your choices and pick the winner. |
_________________ Only catch snowflakes on your tongue AFTER the birds fly south for the winter... |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Sat May 18, 2019 7:36 am
|
|
|
Joined: 27 Sep 2015
Posts: 177
Location: Alabama
|
|
I've used the Golden Pheasant #5 with great success on Phez. Never tried the Federal. I thought the nickel plate was supposed to make the shot not drag as many feathers into the bird on impact and thus penetrate better? |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Sat May 18, 2019 9:43 am
|
|
|
Member
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Posts: 367
Location: Anchorage, AK
|
|
Both are good for sharptails but I'd use 1 ounce Federals for ruffs...don't need the extra shot. Good load for Timberdoodles too. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Sun May 19, 2019 7:53 pm
|
|
|
Joined: 15 Mar 2019
Posts: 13
|
|
Thanks for the replies. I’ll probably pick up a couple cases of federals. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Posted:
Mon May 20, 2019 12:29 pm
|
|
|
Joined: 29 Nov 2018
Posts: 23
Location: United States
|
|
I have not used Fiocchi but I have used Wing Shok pheasant hunting in North Dakota. The #5 shot worked great. Not sure I'd ever try anything else on wild prairie roosters. I've found the game shok works great for doves, grouse and huns.
Michael |
_________________ Michael MN
Current 16 gauge shotguns
Browning BPS Special Field 26"
Browning 525 26"
Franchi Instinct SL 28" |
|
|
|
|
|
|