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WyoChukar
PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:43 am  Reply with quote



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Putz, that's odd. One of the secrets to painting polyethylene is to pass a flame over it to get rid of the static charge right before paint is sprayed. I never knew that some producers added an anti static component to the chemistry of their products. As far as an available material, it's everywhere and getting a chunk to sand down is as easy as grabbing a plastic cutting board or and on motocross bike fender.

Mark, I can't remember the constriction at the moment and am not home to measure it. I probably posted it long ago when I bought the gun, it would be one of my first posts here.

Benjo, if you are loading your own shells, reduced velocity will help. West Coast Magnum lead is harder than the nickel plated and copper plated shot that is currently available and will save you money and give better patterns compared to those plated options. Going up to 1 1/4 oz makes for a pretty long shot column which translates to more crushing forces against the shot located at the rear/ back of the column, generally resulting in an increase in the number of deformed pellets. These tips will help you get a tighter pattern for turkeys. Also, it is possible to choke too tightly. I actually had to ream the left barrel of the Fox so it would handle #5 shot.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:26 am  Reply with quote
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I have many virgin Tuff-N-Lite duck decoys.
These were made about 10 miles from my house.

I use Cabela's PARKER paints

https://www.cabelas.com/product/PARKER-COATINGS-DECOY-PAINT-KIT/2378882.uts?productVariantId=4947525&WT.tsrc=PPC&WT.mc_id=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=04655747&rid=20&ds_rl=1246537&ds_rl=1246540&ds_rl=1247888&ds_rl=1252079&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt5PDloPg5AIVzsDACh04WwFyEAQYASABEgJgqPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Before I paint them, I pass a propane torch over the decoy
to align the molecules.

The paint stays on and does not chip off Smile

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putz463
PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:08 am  Reply with quote
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The extruded PE sheet we form into our custom cases has an anti stat component in the recipe, helps alleviate dust pick-up while in the fabrication processes, which helps the glues work better when we populate with the foam inserts + they look much better w/o a bunch of dust stuck to them. Not all formed plastic parts need an anti stat and since it adds cost it would be a crap shoot knowing if the plastic you have in hand started life with anti stat in the powder, bead, or pellet.

Regardless, knowing the PR stuff is easily obtained styro beads (DIY decoy hobby) is worth looking into. I can't use flour since my buffered loads have a better than average chance of getting wet at some point. I'm nervous enough about a rusted together steel slug of pellets destroying one of my barrels, the organic hygroscopic nature of flour would compound that possibility.

Agree with the over choke thing, amazing what some time patterning on paper brings to light, my fav long range Goose loads work best with minimal choke. No more than Skt or IC constrictions with certain loads produce some amazing patterns.

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WyoChukar
PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:18 pm  Reply with quote



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It's not too hard to tell if the PE has an anti static component. Rub your hand across it a few times then release a few stray dog hairs next to it. If there's static, they will jump right to the plastic.

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MaximumSmoke
PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:01 am  Reply with quote
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Great pattern, WyoChuckar. Thanks.

I like Precision Spherical Buffer (PSB). Can't say how it performs relative to flour, but during loading, it flows into the shot like water and seems to stay where it needs to be. No "tapping" is needed as with flake style buffers. Such tapping tends to "un-weight" the shot charge and there is risk a disproportional amount of the buffer will go to the bottom, or will be unevenly distributed, shell-to-shell.

MSM2019 -- I guess you already covered this. Thanks and best regards.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:23 pm  Reply with quote
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New link
Mike

https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/parker-coatings-decoy-paint-kit


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MaximumSmoke
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:13 pm  Reply with quote
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Good info WyoChukar, Thanks!

Did you try a non-buffered load of the same components except the flour buffer for comparison?
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MSM2019
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Flour works great, but the pressure goes up more than it will with PSB. It fills in the spaces a little to well.

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zoli 16ga.
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Who's to say shooting that load at 60 yard birds, ducks in particular, wouldn't just send off a bunch of cripples?
Just ask'n.


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Great work, what’s the width of that pattern sheet?
Thx
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