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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Stack Height Issue |
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:19 am
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Joined: 17 Oct 2019
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Location: New Jersey
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Hoping for some help with this load. It’s a 2-3/4” Cheddite Hull. The load I have calls for 20.5 gns of Universal, SG-16 wad, and 1 oz of shot. For some reason there’s too much space in the Hull. I’ve checked and double checked my powder measurements and still too much space to get a good crimp. I’ve used this before but may have used a pinto bean. That was back when I started reloading and no longer want to have to do that. I have not reloaded 16’s other than roll crimps in a few years. Thanks in advance. |
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:26 am
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Joined: 21 May 2010
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Location: Victoria BC Canada
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:40 am
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Joined: 28 Jan 2007
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Location: Grampian, PA
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I don't know how much height you're lacking, but my go to is almost always an overshot card. |
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:02 am
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Joined: 26 Sep 2015
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Location: Fremont County, Wyoming
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Swampy16 wrote: |
Hoping for some help with this load. It’s a 2-3/4” Cheddite Hull. The load I have calls for 20.5 gns of Universal, SG-16 wad, and 1 oz of shot. For some reason there’s too much space in the Hull. I’ve checked and double checked my powder measurements and still too much space to get a good crimp. I’ve used this before but may have used a pinto bean. That was back when I started reloading and no longer want to have to do that. I have not reloaded 16’s other than roll crimps in a few years. Thanks in advance.
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Whenever I encounter a stack height problem I use fiber wads as shown below in the link and slice off a layer using an Exacto knife with whatever thickness I need to make stack height correct. So if you are loading 16 gauge shells, I would use a piece of a 24 gauge fiber wad to make appropriate height. A little time consuming and probably not ideal but it works for me.
https://www.ballisticproducts.com/Fiber-Cushion-Filler-Wad-1_2/productinfo/FC/ |
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:02 am
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Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 1698
Location: Minnesota
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Is the number on the wad bag 072sg16? I've done lots of those loads with no fillers. Are you compressing the wad? Only needs to contact the powder. |
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:31 am
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Joined: 04 Mar 2019
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Location: Central ND
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I have to backup what Savage16 wrote.
Make sure it is the longer of the two SG16 wads and do not use any wad pressure.
Another item. Is your bar actually dropping 1 oz. of shot? |
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 1:49 pm
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Joined: 21 Mar 2019
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Location: Texas
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I load the same load, had to use with nitro card under shot or felt cushion. Crimps very nice and shoots the same |
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:04 am
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Joined: 17 Oct 2019
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Location: New Jersey
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I tried trimming to 2-1/2” and did not have enough room. I do believe I’m dropping the proper amount of shot. I’ll look to see what wads I have. I have some thicker fiber wads I can try cutting. Should I put them under the plastic wad? I tried two 28 gauge over shot cards and still did not have enough room. |
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:52 am
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Joined: 09 Feb 2015
Posts: 824
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Swampy, I use a foam wad I cut out on drill press. I can get the foam in sq. sheets of various thickness at Joan fabrics. I took a key hole cutter 5/8's and made a wad cutter out of it. Put the cutter in my drill press and can cut out 100 in less than 3 min.
Also I can show you how to make the 16 AA wad work with no powder creep. Wads are a heck a lot cheaper than DR,cheddite or any of the others. Been doing it a few years now at trap and winning my share of the games against thev12ga guns. |
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:47 am
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Joined: 26 Sep 2015
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Location: Fremont County, Wyoming
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Swampy16 wrote: |
I tried trimming to 2-1/2” and did not have enough room. I do believe I’m dropping the proper amount of shot. I’ll look to see what wads I have. I have some thicker fiber wads I can try cutting. Should I put them under the plastic wad? I tried two 28 gauge over shot cards and still did not have enough room.
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I put the sliced pieces right on top of the shot and then crimp. |
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:13 am
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Joined: 04 Mar 2019
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Location: Central ND
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Here is the load just like the OP submitted.
I weighed the powder and shot. 20.5 grains Universal and 436.8 grains #7.5 shot. Cheddite hull with the SG-16 Gualandi wad. No fillers, nothing else. Crimp depth is about 0.065", which is about what I always use....thickness of a dime.
The machine was setup to load Federal hulls using Remington wads, 800-X and 1 1/8 oz. of #6. I did not touch the settings.
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_________________ Mark...You are entitled to your own opinion. You aren't entitled to your own facts. |
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:52 am
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That is my go to load for 16 ga and I've got buckets of them loaded with no fillers or over shot cards. Nice crimps and swats birds out the air with no problems. |
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:16 pm
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Joined: 17 Oct 2019
Posts: 456
Location: New Jersey
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I wonder what I’m doing wrong. I have red cheddites which I know are the same as the green. I’m using nickel plated 7’s which should actually take up a bit more room. |
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:27 pm
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Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 1698
Location: Minnesota
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MSM2019-looks like about a perfect finished product. I like the black mounting bars-did you buy them somewhere?
Swampy- we might need pics to help you further. I don't see that you've mentioned here what loader you are using?? |
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Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:45 pm
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Joined: 04 Mar 2019
Posts: 1844
Location: Central ND
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Savage16,
Those loads are my favorite 1 oz. 16 gauge load. They pretty much fall together. I use both the SG16 and the B & P 16 gauge wad.
Here are the brackets:
https://www.precisionreloading.com/cart.php#!l=MM&i=MCA12 |
_________________ Mark...You are entitled to your own opinion. You aren't entitled to your own facts. |
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