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gomerdog
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 11:50 am  Reply with quote



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Location: Fremont County, Wyoming

Thanks.

The Iver belonged to my dad, but about three years ago, I committed an nontraditional act and sent the barrel to Mike Orlen. He opened the choke to light modified, so it's probably not a turkey shotgun. I will try it out on blue grouse this fall though.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 1:04 pm  Reply with quote



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Grew up in central Oklahoma. Used to be good pheasant country. When I was a kid, my first real pheasant hunt was with my dad, granddad, uncle and cousin. It was a Thanksging morning and we were assigned to bring back birds by my grandmother.
I was handed a 16 ga single shot gun and I was in heaven. The gun was longer than I was tall. Heard shots and voices saying "rooster" and "bird down" but never saw a bird till back at the truck. Grass was almost over my head.
I keep up the Thanksging Day tradition of a pheasant hunt. Then it is a scotch and memories in the evening.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:09 pm  Reply with quote
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The first grouse (3 species of forest grouse) hunting I did here in N ID was with a Winchester model 37 16 ga that my older brother and I shared. When he received a Remington model 1100, the model 37 was all mine to use. I used that shotgun for both grouse, waterfowl and trap shooting until I was about 15.

My dad was given a Remington model 1900, 12 gauge, from a guy that owed him money for pasturing his horse. After me pestering him about letting me have the shotgun, he gave it to me and I bagged my first pheasant, quail and hun with it. I got seriously into goose hunting and set the 1900 aside and bought a Rem 870 which I used for years in both N ID and in AK for mainly waterfowl and ptarmigan.

After moving back home to N ID, I pulled the old 1900 and model 37 out of my folks closet, used both for a bit of grouse and pheasant hunting, which re-ignited my appreciation for both the double and the 16 ga. Now I have a number of both 16 ga and double shotguns and that's about all I ever use for upland hunting.
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Upland Carpenter
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 2:38 pm  Reply with quote
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The great thing about tradition is it's up to each individual to decide what that really means to them. No one is bound to someone else's arbitrary idea of it, responses here are testament to that.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:09 pm  Reply with quote
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skeettx wrote:
What states have traditional grouse populations left in huntable quantities?
None here in Texas


MI, WI and MN all have good grouse and woodcock populations.

Tradition is what one family passes along from generation to generation and one is no better than another, just different. It could also develop in one generation and be just as compelling as another families multi generational tradition.

Some of my hunting friends come from generations of upland hunters and others picked it up in their lifetime. For me upland hunting is about the camaraderie that develops with old friends, meeting new friends, hunting with my kids and now grandkids, watching the dogs work and spending time in the woods and prairies in that magical time of year. The birds bagged are a bonus.

My Grandkids are the 5th generation of upland hunters in my family and it is a blessing to pass this marvelous activity on to them.

Good Hunting,
Mike
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MSM2019
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:40 pm  Reply with quote



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skeettx,

Maine has some good ruffed grouse hunting. I am not sure about Vermont and New Hampshire, but I can't see why they wouldn't.

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PatrickB
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:56 pm  Reply with quote
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Upland Carpenter wrote:
The great thing about tradition is it's up to each individual to decide what that really means to them. No one is bound to someone else's arbitrary idea of it, responses here are testament to that.


Well said. I enjoy reading about the traditions of others no matter the gun, dog breed or game bird.
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hayseed
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:29 pm  Reply with quote



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My Grandkids are the 5th generation of upland hunters in my family and it is a blessing to pass this marvelous activity on to them.

Good Hunting,
Mike[/quote]

5 generations! How awesome is that !
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JonP
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 6:41 am  Reply with quote



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I guess folks would say I am very traditional. I hunt with 2 barrels -16 guage of course-and I shoot birds that my DD have handled properly...over points or when commanded to flush. If 2 shots can't do it, then the bird wins. I also stalk and shoot big game up close and personal. Although I shoot to 600 yds at the range...not what I'm gonna do in practice. I do have a semi for the duck blind. Most young hunters snicker.
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Pine Creek/Dave
PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2020 11:36 am  Reply with quote



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JonP,

I commend your ethical hunting practice, I also make sure to back up my shots by looking for a winged bird, or birds I believe I have missed completely. A good dog usually shows a gunner how many birds he has actually put shot into. Many times my dogs have retrieved birds that I thought I had completely missed.

Great ethical hunting JonP! Next a 16 gauge Hammer Gun of your choosing. They open up another fantastic disciplined way of gunning. Some of the very best Grouse & Woodcock gunning that can be done.


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revdocdrew
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 2:17 pm  Reply with quote
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Neat collection Dave.
Is the 2nd gun from the top your 1898 L.C. Smith Special Ordered Pre-production Regular frame 20 gauge No. 2 with tubed Chain Damascus barrels?


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Brewster11
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2020 9:56 pm  Reply with quote



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Am a lifelong confirmed SxS Ruffed Grouse hunter but not by tradition. That first cool October morning afoot for grouse in Northern Michigan as a teen with the bright early sun streaming through the frost-tipped ferns and golden leaved Aspen against the deep blue sky was all it took.

Of course we had birds back then. We once counted a flush of two dozen when the dog got ahead of us. We then learned we didn’t need a dog anyway. They were more of a hindrance back then. All it took was to stop and wait every few steps, and the birds would get nervous and flush at the next step.

Then I found that the SxS with its great big wide barrel sighting plane was much quicker than a single barrel for covering the bird amidst the jumble of cedar boughs and tag alders before it slipped behind a balsam and disappeared forever.

So yes, tradition for some, but a lifetime of wonderful discovery for the rest of us.

Cheers All
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Pine Creek/Dave
PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2020 10:27 am  Reply with quote



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revdocdrew,

Yes the 2nd gun from the top is the special order 1898 #2 20 gauge my Great Grandfather had made for his Woodcock and mountain Quail hunting here in Pa. It's Damascus Barrels were fully sleeved by Briley for 28 gauge shells long ago. Great gun for Grouse, Woodcock and Quail. Would like to have another set of 20 gauge barrels fit to the gun also. Probably will not be lucky enough to find a set close enough have the work done however. Hoping for a very early set of Krupp 20 gauge Barrels to become available.

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Close up of the Kraus engraving usually found on #3 16 gauged L.C. Smith double guns.

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