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Hav6125
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:13 am  Reply with quote



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Local shop has a German made 16 ga side by side on the rack. It locks up tight, barrels look good inside and out. Is there anything I need to pay close attention to when I get a chance to go look at it again?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:30 pm  Reply with quote
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Chamber length
Nitro proof
Chokes
How does it fit you

https://www.shotguns.se/html/germany_1890-1945.html

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:36 pm  Reply with quote
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I would add wall thickness and making sure there are no cracks in the wood and you may have to pull the stock to make sure of that. A good gunsmith can tell you if a black powder proof gun (vs Nitro) has good enough barrels for light ammo such as RST makes. Nitro proof certainly makes it easier.

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Carlos
PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:42 pm  Reply with quote



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All guns are not equal, and German guns are no exception. Before you buy, read the proof mark link posted above. Get the name of the maker and research.

I have two Merkells and two Sauers, and with those names you can't go too far wrong. There is also a segment of the market called "guild" guns. Actions , barrels and some other parts were sold to small shop makers who completed the guns for sale with their own name. These guns can be very good indeed, but research.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:51 am  Reply with quote
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I am a little late to this conversation.....what did you decide on this German gun you found? A good source of information on them may found here at the German Gun Collectors Assn site .. https://www.germanguns.com/
Reading and interpretation of the barrel markings has been the subject of many posts on the site.

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Hav6125
PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:40 am  Reply with quote



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It’s a Simson, wasn’t able to find a model number. It has roughly26” barrels with 2 3/4” chambers. Wasn’t able to find any marking for choke sizes. It appears used but not abused. Bluing looks decent action is white instead of having caseharding or bluing. Stock and forearm checkering is worn. The shop wants 600 for it. It’s still on the shelf. I had some truck issues that took priority. Don’t know if it’s a good price or not.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:16 pm  Reply with quote
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Simson was made in the same factory as Merkel and Sauer during certain periods in German history, the legend goes?, so the build quality should be similar, though price is usually quite a bit less than Merkel and some less than Sauer. $600 is probably about right. You see them priced much higher, but not sell Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:53 am  Reply with quote



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Simson made before 1935 could easily be well over 1k depending on individual gun.
Germanhuntingguns.com would be a good reference. Show some pics and we can post comps. Search gunbroker type in German shotgun for a search.
Good luck

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