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I have no doubt that these Estates are good loads. I used to use the 1 oz Federal 7 1/2's for my grouse loads, and have taken a few WI pheasants with the 6's. I was considering these for pheasants in my AyA, and I'm sure they'd be fine, but I have a pretty good stash of hard shot, so I've decided to work up a couple loads from the ground up and have a little fun with it.

All good, thanks!

Joined: 13 Oct 2015 Posts: 348

I read the first post and thought you were making a joke about the bogus marketing label! That load is the exact opposite of a heavy load, it's a light one oz for the 16 gauge, and it's going slow. It just goes to show that you cannot rely on labels and marketing from even non scammer companies like estate / Federal / Vista, when making purchasing choices 4 ammo.

The other day I saw a box can't remember who, it was lead shot and it had a silhouette of a rabbit a pheasant and a duck on the box Colette buyers know that it would be good for all of them! There'll be some guy trying to explain to the game warden why he was shooting lead shot dot-dot-dot

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Dave , I agree that the "Heavy Game Load" labeling is a bit ridiculous, and yes, that wasn't what I was driving at. Just thought someone might have some anecdotal comments about the load.

I've got a little treasure trove of Precision Reloading's nickel-plated hard 5's, 6's, and 7's, and along with some nickel-plated 5.5's from Ballistic Products. From these I'll load up some special game loads for my 16 gauge AyA #2.

Joined: 11 Dec 2017 Posts: 77 Location: South Dakota

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I know a little bit of a stretch but the 10ga Fed & Estate hulls are exactly the same. The Estate loads performed every bit as well as the Fed's did.

Joined: 25 Jan 2014 Posts: 229 Location: MN

The "Heavy Game Load" name has nothing to do with the cartridge, it about the game. They are specially made for shooting fat rabbits that can't run as fast and require less forward lead.

Happy New Year

Back in my youth, I used 1 oz, - 6 loads rated at 1200 fps thru a Model 12 12 ga. with a Poly-choke for pheasants. Results were good on crossing shots, but after shooting a couple in the butt and having them run away, I went to the 3 3/4-1 1/4 - 6 heavy load.

I have three or four boxes of 16 ga. factory 1-6 @ 1165 fps loads that I will pattern to see if I can get patterns tight enough to use on quail. No. 6's aren't needed for quail, but I want to use them up.