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< 16ga. Guns ~ 870 Madness! |
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Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:32 pm
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Joined: 16 Jul 2015
Posts: 2126
Location: Hudson,Wy
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What is going on with the price of Remington 870's these days? People are paying double and triple book value now. Yes I know there are a lot of new shooters and one of the most common statements written over the years is that the 870 is the perfect first shotgun for somebody, but still, it's crazy.
I am not seeing this same trend in other parts of the shotgun market. Things are up a little bit in general and small bore American doubles keep creeping upward, but nothing like has happened with 870's. |
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Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:54 pm
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Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 3438
Location: Illinois
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Why are folks paying $250.00 for a brick-500 rounds-of .22 lr ammo |
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Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:29 am
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Joined: 06 Oct 2007
Posts: 2347
Location: West MI
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as Joni Mitchell sang....you don't know what you've got till it's gone..... |
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Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:45 am
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Joined: 08 Mar 2016
Posts: 120
Location: South Dakota
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Crazy times! The same thing was happening with the marlin lever guns too. |
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Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:55 am
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Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 1696
Location: Minnesota
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Its not just 870's. Try looking on GB at 1100's or just about anything Remmy.
As far as Marlins, they have been purchased by Ruger. When I was talking to Ruger a couple weeks ago about something else, I asked what is going to happen to Marlin and was told they plan on starting production again sometime this summer. |
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Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:04 am
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Joined: 08 Feb 2009
Posts: 1309
Location: Western WA
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Guns and ammo have become everyman’s gold. |
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Mon Apr 05, 2021 8:17 pm
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Joined: 04 Oct 2015
Posts: 280
Location: Clemson
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Not just Remington. Collector quality old Browning A5's have gone through the roof. 2 sweet 16's were auctioned on Gunbroker in the last month and they sold for $6500.00 and $4625.00 if memory serves. Both of these guns appeared to be as new in box. As nice a couple of guns as you will ever see. But prices like these makes a man with several old, nice Brownings think maybe selling is better than collecting..... |
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:12 am
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Joined: 08 Mar 2016
Posts: 120
Location: South Dakota
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It seems like it has started to calm down some at least. That may be wishful thinking but I see some guns that didn’t last long on auction site a few months ago still there and some prices coming down. Maybe if Remington gets started back up soon that will help. |
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:20 am
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Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Posts: 1550
Location: Minnesota and Florida
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"Collector quality" A5's, 870's and 1100's Wow, you heard it here! Let the hoarding begin -- or continue. It's good to know, then, that all that junk in the back of my gun cabinets is worth real money. De gustibus non est disputandum or, translated from Latin: "In matters of taste, there can be no disputes". We are free to choose. Whatever blows your hair back, baby! . . . and another little market rolls on. |
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:21 am
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Joined: 24 Jun 2013
Posts: 2067
Location: canandaigua - western n.y. (formerly deerhunter)
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G16 - yeah , it'll be interesting to see what the new versions look like and how they are priced .... still like the original 870 versions best - 70 yrs old !! |
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:09 pm
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Joined: 14 Sep 2016
Posts: 68
Location: KC,MO
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I like 1100s, the 11-87 Premiers, and I find the V3 to be very functional, but the only Remington gun that was in production that I really hold in any regard was the wingmaster. Semi-autos kind of come and go for me, including some Remingtons. I currently have a V3 and it’s the only semi-auto I own. I use it when I end to shoot steel or if I’m going volume shooting, but I don’t have any special feeling for it. I did buy it very cheap, though, and think I’d have trouble replacing it at the cost I paid for it, except with another gun of similar quality (A300, SX4, etc.). It shoots well, functions flawlessly, and I don’t fuss at all over it on a duck hunt. My wingmasters, kind of run the spectrum. There are a couple I don’t like to bang around, a couple that are my default bad weather bird guns, and everything in between. But I love them all. I even love my Sportsman 12 Pump (870 Express predecessor, basically a wingmaster with less polished blueing and birch furniture), which is all turkey-gunned out.
Nonetheless, the price wingmasters are fetching has tempted me. I bought most of the ones I own in pawn shops and probably could have sold any of them for more than I paid for all of them combined. At one point, I watched a late 70s magnum go for about $1000, but I felt pretty sure I couldn’t buy another gun for under $1000 that I liked as much as any of the wingmasters I own. While I’m not very optimistic about Remington’s return to production, and even less optimistic about the wingmaster returning to production, I think the insanity will taper off and they’ll regress to mean. |
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Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:26 pm
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Joined: 25 Jan 2014
Posts: 229
Location: MN
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Before this site became "popular", I would see decent used 16 ga Wingmasters and Ithaca 37's at country gun shops that could be bought for about $150. "16 ga, nice guns, but in a couple years you won't be able to get shells for them" was the local wisdom at the time.
Of course, at that time I believed that local wisdom. |
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Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:27 pm
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Joined: 06 Apr 2007
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Location: The Great Northwet
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As a dealer, I'm not complaining. As a shooter however, the ammo shortage sucks! Thanks God I at least have some reloading supplies on hand. |
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Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:33 pm
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Joined: 12 Sep 2010
Posts: 1973
Location: Maine
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I'm seeing ammo lie unsold on auction websites, too. This is a good sign. |
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Posted:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:04 am
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Joined: 09 Feb 2019
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Savage16 wrote: |
Its not just 870's. Try looking on GB at 1100's or just about anything Remmy.
As far as Marlins, they have been purchased by Ruger. When I was talking to Ruger a couple weeks ago about something else, I asked what is going to happen to Marlin and was told they plan on starting production again sometime this summer.
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Ruger will begin Marlin production in Mayodan, NC at the same facility where they make the Ruger American Rifles. They bought an existing facility and did some major reworking of it. |
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