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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Favorite non toxic |
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Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:18 am
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Joined: 10 Apr 2013
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What are your favorite non toxic hunting shells ? Thanks |
_________________ Nasty-G |
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Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:09 am
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Joined: 04 Mar 2019
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Location: Central ND
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My own reloads:
Winchester (Cheddite) 16 Ga. 2 3/4" 2 pc. plastic hull
Federal 209A primer
27.0 grains Alliant Steel powder
16 Ga. gas seal (TUWGS16)
16 Ga. .028" overshot card
1 1/4" X 2 1/8" .0075 Mylar
20 ga. 1/8" felt wad
1 1/8 oz. #5 Bismuth
20 grains PSB buffer
Tightseal (assures the buffer doesn't leak)
1297 FPS 11,200 PSI
I have taken Huns, Sharptails, Pheasants and Mallards over decoys with this load. A little overkill for the Huns but it works.
All the components come from Precision Reloading. The data was in one of their original Bismuth manuals. Assemble the load in the order I have listed. Seems like a lot, but it is fairly simple to assemble.
The reason for Bismuth is, except for my Citori all my 16 ga. shotguns are older and I don't care for steel in those old modified and tighter barrels. |
_________________ Mark...You are entitled to your own opinion. You aren't entitled to your own facts. |
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Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:03 am
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Joined: 09 Feb 2015
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Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:12 am
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Joined: 03 Aug 2009
Posts: 203
Location: Northern California
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In California, we have to use nontoxic shot for everything -- from hunting to pest management, big game, doves, predators, etc.
I'm loving all the new boutique custom shell companies starting up. BOSS may be my favorite at the moment since they have such a large selection of 16 gauge, copper-plated Bismuth offerings as well as other subgauges. Right now, BOSS is selling 16 gauge loads in #3, #3/5 duplex, #4, #5, #6, and #7 shot.
Backridge Ammunition is another good one. They currently have 16 gauge Bismuth #8s and #6s in stock and sell them 25 per box vs. 20/box over at BOSS. BOSS 16 gauge shells come in appropriately colored purple hulls. Backridge is using red hulls for 16 gauge. |
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Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:08 am
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Joined: 14 Sep 2021
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Location: Oregon
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I shoot mostly non-toxic. My favorites so far are BOSS bismuth #7 for grouse and BOSS or Kent #5 for pheasants, turkeys, etc. |
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Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:55 am
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Joined: 16 Mar 2017
Posts: 226
Location: Valdosta GA
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Boss, Kent and Backridge make quality bismuth ammo. RST as well for shorter chambers and lower pressures. Boss can put fiber wads in their shells if you call and it lowers the pressure a little bit for the older guns |
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Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:58 pm
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Joined: 27 Aug 2020
Posts: 93
Location: SE TX Marsh and Young County Tx
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Boss in my 16 ga,
My old favorite for the 12was the old remington hevishot. |
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Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:51 pm
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Joined: 09 Feb 2015
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Favorit non toxic would be quail. |
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Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:49 am
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Joined: 01 Oct 2007
Posts: 962
Location: Minnesota
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Hammer bill wrote: |
I don't shot non toxic.
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If I shoot non toxic, which is very rare, it’s tungsten in a 12 ga. |
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Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:04 am
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Joined: 04 Mar 2019
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Location: Central ND
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I believe that the great majority of hunters do not shoot non-toxic unless they have to. I know that I won't use it unless I am hunting on an area the requires it or when hunting waterfowl.
Maybe some one using a .410/28 for turkey hunting might want to use some of the dense stuff, but...... |
_________________ Mark...You are entitled to your own opinion. You aren't entitled to your own facts. |
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Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:56 pm
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Joined: 03 Sep 2014
Posts: 398
Location: Rochester, MN
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I have been using nontoxic shot for all my hunting for several years now.
I use mostly steel. Steel is effective for ducks, geese, doves, rabbits, prairie chickens, sharptail grouse, ruffed grouse and woodcock.
I have also shot several turkeys with steel shot.
For pheasants, I prefer bismuth shot in sizes 6 to 4. |
_________________ John Singer |
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Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:34 pm
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Joined: 08 Feb 2009
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Location: Western WA
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Have had decent success with ITX on phez and ducks but in general, nothing comes remotely close to lead which we used to great effect back in the day. Having said that, I must admit that the original HeavyShot no. 6 could drop ducks stone dead from great heights almost better than lead. Strange stuff, the pellets were all misshapen and non uniform but somehow it worked. Haven’t seen it around for years however.
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Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:17 pm
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Joined: 06 Apr 2007
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Location: The Great Northwet
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I prefer ITX, as I have no problem dropping ducks at 40+ yds with it, but it's too hard for the damascus guns I shoot, so I'm switching to bismuth this year. I'm going to reload, and order a bag of 6's and 4's for my 16's and 12's. 6's for nontoxic quail areas where I might also flush a rooster, and 4's for ducks and geese. |
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Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:59 pm
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Joined: 16 Jul 2015
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Location: Hudson,Wy
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I reload steel shot. It's affordable and I don't have any problems bagging ducks and geese with it. |
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Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:00 pm
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Joined: 15 Mar 2007
Posts: 601
Location: Virginia
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Kent Tungsten Matrix. Unfortunately, they are no longer made in 16 gauge. |
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