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Joined: 28 Aug 2014 Posts: 924 Location: Eastern Tennessee

Just wanted to share as I’ve not be on much the last month or so. Our Trap Club ordered a large volume of this 12 gauge ammo in the 1 oz model. I’ve noticed that it tends to stick in some guns. Seeing it more than what I would call random. Several of us have used trial and error to find firearms that it doesn’t seem to have this issue in. We’ve seen extractors tearing chunks out of the side of the shell rims when they stick.

Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 822

When I started having that problem is used my supersizor. Took them .002 below factory. The brand you are getting try measure them as close under the rim as possible. I used calipers with the knife edge just below the rim. The go .002 below the measurement. Worked for me.

Joined: 28 Aug 2014 Posts: 924 Location: Eastern Tennessee

Sorry for the confusion. Theses are factory loads. Challenger is the ammunition brand.

Charlie , this is just a sign of the times issue . Our Kolar guys use 1100's when they have their guns out for service . They bought Fios and Estates ! Shot a few and gave them all away - same issue . The kids shoot 90% Feds and and have had some stick issues too ... Believe what H-Bill is saying is size the factory loads . (the Fed issue happens with the new plastic base cases - never had that issue with the old fiber base cases - love them !!)

Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 1842 Location: Central ND

I shot a couple of boxes of 12 ga. Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics at a shoot where the ammo was supplied to the shooters. I had 3 or 4 rounds that didn't get extracted from the chamber. I shoot a Benelli SS and I have never had a reload (or any other ammo) do this. I was kind of surprised but maybe I shouldn't have been.

I'm an assistant coach for our high school trap team. This season we had some ammo difficulties: a couple R-P rounds that pulled the heads off and left the hull in the chamber when fired in SKB semis, a Federal Top Gun load that had the head smashed and distorted and one that did not have metal on the cap of the primer. Fortunately, the shooter saw it before chambering the round. Another round had the crimp so distorted, it would not chamber. We also had a few misfires, most of which fired on the second attempt.

A half-dozen or so rounds is not a high number compared to the number of rounds fired during the season. However, we had virtually no problems in the previous three seasons. I'm guessing that the factories are running full tilt to get ammo out and inspection/quality has suffered somewhat.

Joined: 09 Feb 2015 Posts: 822

It has become the thing to outsource to smaller manufactures when capacity won't allow enough time or material to catch up. The supplier has specifications to go by but their are many way to stay within specs and still get around cheating for cutting cost. This has been going on for more than 30 years or more. Plus many factories have part time help who care Lee's about quality.
Over the last couple years the symptoms spoken of above has been clearing up. But in the medical field it's a disease going rapid.