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< 16ga. Guns ~ Brought the Emil Kerner 16 ga sxs home |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:47 am
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Joined: 30 Sep 2015
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Location: NEW SALISBURY INDIANA
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:40 pm
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:20 pm
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Joined: 22 May 2020
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Location: Ky
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Awesome early gun, congratulations!
Post pics of top of barrels with nitro and bottom of the barrel just ahead of the flats, that tells who made the barrels. Those small marks on the barrels.
Might want to have gunsmith barrel mechanic take a look at gun before you shoot? Should be 65mm chambers unless someone opened them but that might not be bad either? Are barrels pitted very bad and can you measure bore size with expanding gauge? |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:13 pm
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Location: Ky
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Sorry I found all your pics, just so happens one of my no name guns has the same barrel maker and mystery K maker also. The one I sent you the link too. You may have answered with this Kerner gun. Thanks! |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:36 pm
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look at the pic in my post that shows the ser no on the bottom of the barrel, you also can see a capitol H with a 5 or 6 pointed star and an upside down Y or could be a partially stamped K. the nitro with a crown or some other stamp is right at the wood line of both barrels. I believe it has the short chambers, but that is ok since I reload and make my own 2.5 inch shells for my 1929 browning A5. the barrel are shiny without any pits. How do you know is an early gun? anyway to tell when it was made? |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:36 pm
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Joined: 22 May 2020
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Location: Ky
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Thanks to Raimeys work we know your barrels
“ The tubes were either sourced from H�nel where they were completed by the most competent mechanic Gebhard Helmuthhauser / Gebhard Helmuth�user or Gebhard Helmuth�user who was listed @ Bergstra�e 1 or Gebhard Helmuthhauser / Gebhard Helmuth�user or Gebhard Helmuth�user was sourced for the tube work. ” |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:43 pm
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so when do you think it was made? |
_________________ 16ga 3-Win 37
16ga Ithaca 37 1946
16ga Western Auto Revelation
16ga Browning A-5 1929
16ga Marlin 90 1939
16ga browning citori lightning grade 3 2003
16ga Francisque Darne 1920 |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:56 pm
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Joined: 22 May 2020
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What does this say?
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:04 pm
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Joined: 22 May 2020
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Per Mr. Ford it’s pre 1921 when “..Suhl started dating proofs” |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:15 pm
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looks like 4-23 |
_________________ 16ga 3-Win 37
16ga Ithaca 37 1946
16ga Western Auto Revelation
16ga Browning A-5 1929
16ga Marlin 90 1939
16ga browning citori lightning grade 3 2003
16ga Francisque Darne 1920 |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:33 pm
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Joined: 22 May 2020
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Post a pic of the nitro please that may help? |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:41 pm
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is it worth the $750 I paid?, will try and get a nitro pic |
_________________ 16ga 3-Win 37
16ga Ithaca 37 1946
16ga Western Auto Revelation
16ga Browning A-5 1929
16ga Marlin 90 1939
16ga browning citori lightning grade 3 2003
16ga Francisque Darne 1920 |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 3:49 pm
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nitro pic
https://flic.kr/p/2nyNRtn |
_________________ 16ga 3-Win 37
16ga Ithaca 37 1946
16ga Western Auto Revelation
16ga Browning A-5 1929
16ga Marlin 90 1939
16ga browning citori lightning grade 3 2003
16ga Francisque Darne 1920 |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:13 pm
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Joined: 22 May 2020
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Location: Ky
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Evidently Suhl started putting date code on flats in 1923, I don’t think it usually looks like that but it may have just started? Maybe that’s why they did it like yours?
But you did fine at 720.00 that’s about what I spent on mine and yours is marked with Kerners name that’s a plus, engraving with game sene a big plus. Guy trying to sell a Kerner 16 with very similar engraving for 1999.00 on gb now. You will need some 2.5 - 2 5/8 shells for it. Do you reload?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/934056147[/img] |
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Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:06 pm
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yes I reload and trim hulls down to 2.5 for my 1929 browning A5 |
_________________ 16ga 3-Win 37
16ga Ithaca 37 1946
16ga Western Auto Revelation
16ga Browning A-5 1929
16ga Marlin 90 1939
16ga browning citori lightning grade 3 2003
16ga Francisque Darne 1920 |
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