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< 16ga. General Discussion ~ Gauges we have. |
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Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:52 pm
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Location: Maine
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Citori16 wrote: |
Anybody have a pic of a 14 gauge?
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About 10 years ago I passed on a 14 ga Parker at a large gun show. It was a nice gun, but for someone in its past having mistaken it for a 12 ga. They ran 12 ga ammo through it and bulged one of the barrels.
Winchester also made 14 ga model 50 and 59 repeaters in the 60s, complete with idiosyncratic aluminum-hulled shotgun shells. Didn't catch on. A few with fiberglass wrapped barrels, saving weight by cutting down on the barrel steel. Didn't catch on, doubly.
14 ga bore was about .693, smack between the 12 at .729 and the 16 at .667. I suppose there was some advantage to it, but not enough to support its continuing existence in the market.
https://www.dogsanddoubles.com/2013/02/the-14-gauge-no-one-ever-loved-it/ |
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Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:10 am
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Location: Too far south in New England
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I passed on a pinfire 14 ga back before cell phones had cameras. Figured I was in enough trouble reloading for the 16 ga Flues, never mind trying to get shells for an extinct gauge. I wish I had a camera with me though, an odd duck most folks don’t believe existed.
Thanks for linking the article, interesting side note for our passion. |
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Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:10 am
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Location: West MI
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Musing; could an overbored SP10 be considered a 9ga? Or a Mossberg 935 an 11ga?? Probably more to do with the ammo and not the bore, fun to think about though... |
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Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:30 am
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Joined: 13 Jun 2009
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Location: WA/AK
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Both Remington and Winchester provided 24- and 32-gauge ammunition at various times.
I've not seen any Peters or Western 24- or 32-gauge shells. |
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Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:30 pm
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Location: Maine
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Those shells all look like this: (1) They're all old, old boxes, and (2) they'd be great for quail, snipe, woodcock, rails and, given their age, yellowlegs and curlews.
And garden pests.
There's a thread over on the Upland Journal website where they post gun-and-bird pics, and the one guy has posted a pic from a recent hunt of his 24 ga hammer Purdey and a woodcock.
Takes all kinds. |
_________________ “A man’s rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.”
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Fri Feb 24, 2023 10:14 am
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Location: Endless Mountains of Pa
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FallCreekFan,
Man that is the exact Baker 10 gauge gun I have been looking for. Great that yours has the steel barrels! I have also been looking for the only 14 gauge double gun L.C. Smith ever made. Nobody seems to know where the gun went, or if it still exists. These two double guns I would still like to have in my L.C. Smith family collection.
Fantastic old baker Hammer Gun take care of her!
Pine Creek/Dave
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Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:13 am
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Location: canandaigua - western n.y. (formerly deerhunter)
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32 ga skeet sounds like it would be a hoot ! Talk about what would be an expensive hobby ! |
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Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:36 pm
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Location: Maine
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Speaking about 14 gauge guns ...
I went to a gun show today. One of the guys with what most people would consider rust & dust (as opposed to shiny new black plastic) on his table had one: A Stevens tip-up, single shot, 14 gauge.
I almost bought it.
After I walked down the aisle and up the other side and came back, someone else had.
Later, a friend bought from the same vendor a very nice 10 ga single shot from an obscure New Hampshire maker and then piled on with a an 88 "commission" rifle, a sporter, that still has >90% of the original case color and looked like it had hardly ever been used. |
_________________ “A man’s rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.”
Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867, speech in Williamsport, Pa. |
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Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:42 am
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Location: Mpls, MN.
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Dave in Maine wrote: |
Speaking about 14 gauge guns ...
I went to a gun show today. One of the guys with what most people would consider rust & dust (as opposed to shiny new black plastic) on his table had one: A Stevens tip-up, single shot, 14 gauge.
I almost bought it.
After I walked down the aisle and up the other side and came back, someone else had.
Later, a friend bought from the same vendor a very nice 10 ga single shot from an obscure New Hampshire maker and then piled on with a an 88 "commission" rifle, a sporter, that still has >90% of the original case color and looked like it had hardly ever been used.
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Dude saved you from yourself, buying the 14 gauge.
You owe him a beer.
Best,
Ted |
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Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:16 am
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Joined: 28 Mar 2008
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Location: Eagle, Nebraska
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several 10ga, sxs, O/U, single shot and a Browning Gold Light 10 numerous 12ga's in sxs, O/U, Auto
bunch of 16ga, in sxs, O//U, autos
20ga O/u
24ga O/U
28ga in O/U |
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Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:10 pm
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Joined: 12 Sep 2010
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Location: Maine
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Ted Schefelbein wrote: |
Dave in Maine wrote: |
Speaking about 14 gauge guns ...
I went to a gun show today. One of the guys with what most people would consider rust & dust (as opposed to shiny new black plastic) on his table had one: A Stevens tip-up, single shot, 14 gauge.
I almost bought it.
After I walked down the aisle and up the other side and came back, someone else had.
Later, a friend bought from the same vendor a very nice 10 ga single shot from an obscure New Hampshire maker and then piled on with a an 88 "commission" rifle, a sporter, that still has >90% of the original case color and looked like it had hardly ever been used.
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Dude saved you from yourself, buying the 14 gauge.
You owe him a beer.
Best,
Ted
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You're right, Ted. The pain with the 14 would have been getting shells. I suppose Buffalo Arms or someone would make all-brass shells, for a price. But why go there?
I wound up making out (even though the 14 ga was reasonably priced). I came home with a very nice Page-Lewis Model C Olympic falling block .22, for not long money. I took it to the range today to function test - the bore looked dark - and it worked like a charm. Also tends to put bullets where I aim, a real plus.
Now to find the tang sight that should go with it.
Also a pound of 20/28 for $28. Go figure. |
_________________ “A man’s rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.”
Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867, speech in Williamsport, Pa. |
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