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| < 16ga. General Discussion ~ PA Grouse Season starts the 19th Of October this season. |
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Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:48 pm
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Location: Denver, Colorado
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Very nice JP Sauer Dave!
Griffon: I do have a few hunting pumpguns here, a 16 M12, a southpaw 870, what else...a double-hump 520 and even a flat-top 520 too. The M12 is usually the one that gets the cornshucker nod for upland work. |
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Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:52 pm
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Location: Maine
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| No tweed knickers, when they get wet you'll chaff something awful. Pumpgun you've got one vote for your Marlin. |
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Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:06 pm
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Joined: 19 May 2006
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Location: Too far south in New England
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Just gotta love a Maine sense of humor! It’s something like Swamp Yankee with an extra dash of Deep Woods Off. Must be all those big mosquitoes…
My partridge/grouse hunting mentor was from Howland, ME, and ran a 12 ga Weatherby O/U, with an 1100 for backup. He teased me for shooting my Flues, especially when I missed which was often.
The best (and probably most ethical) bird hunter I hunted with ran a Model 12. I only saw him miss once on a woodcock, and boy was he mad about it, which made me laugh because he was normally so composed. He was from CT.
I love the banter in this thread, kinda reminds me of duck hunting with a bunch of buddies in a blind. The only time it stops is for the first bite of food.
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Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:31 pm
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| Never mastered a pumpgun Lloyd. Me shooting a pumpgun was a waste of perfectly good ammunition. Started early on with doubles and stuck with them. |
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Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:05 pm
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| Very nice gun Dave although I'm seeing a pattern here. I'm noticing in your gun pictures they are always adorned with a grouse. The birds always look very similar. Are those different birds or a taxidermy bird you use for photo ops? |
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Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:17 pm
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Location: New Jersey
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| That’s a taxidermy bird the Dave hit with his Explorer. It was a fine shot. He’s never actually killed a grouse. 😂 |
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Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:57 pm
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Location: Denver, Colorado
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Griffon: I grew up in a pump gun world, but I've evolved into a doublegun guy.
There is a place for both, however, in my battery of firearms.
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Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:54 pm
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Joined: 17 Mar 2017
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Location: Endless Mountains of Pa
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Lloyd3,
Both nice old guns!
all the best,
Pine Creek/Dave
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Mon Feb 03, 2025 2:56 pm
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Joined: 17 Jan 2014
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Location: Denver, Colorado
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Thanks Dave.
Hope your February goes quickly and softly there. Waiting on 2 of my Elsies to get back to me.
Love your hammer pictures. |
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Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:08 pm
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Lloyd3,
Thanks much buddy for the nice compliment on the L.C. Smith guns!
all the best,
Pine Creek/Dave
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Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:15 pm
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Location: Endless Mountains of Pa
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16gaDavis,
We simply do not have enough experienced Grouse hunters any more to put pressure on the PGC, it is a sorry situation for sure.
all the best,
Pine Creek/Dave
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Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:09 pm
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| Pine Creek/Dave wrote: |
16gaDavis,
We simply do not have enough experienced Grouse hunters any more to put pressure on the PGC, it is a sorry situation for sure.
all the best,
Pine Creek/Dave
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Why do you have to have experienced grouse hunters to put pressure on PGC?
Why can't just regular grouse hunters do that? |
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Sat Feb 15, 2025 9:24 pm
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Location: Endless Mountains of Pa
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Shorebird,
In reality we just do not have enough Grouse hunters left in any experienced level to put pressure on the PGC to actually influence them into making the changes necessary for good forest management let alone correct Grouse seasons and times. Way to few actual Grouse hunters left in Pa.
Way more Deer, Turkey and Bear hunters than Grouse hunters now.
all the best,
Pine Creek/Dave
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Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:48 am
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16gaugeDavis,
Yes we use to hunt the western part of NY almost every year when the Pa Grouse season ended. The snow was sometimes very deep and it could become very dangerous on some parts of the NY mountains. Took a header myself one snowy afternoon and hurt my gun arm pretty badly. Was stove up for about 2 weeks.
Ny is close to our Potter County log cabin and we bought a NY license most every year,
it gave the dogs a lot more time in the Grouse woods, especially late in the season.
There was some real fine Grouse hunting at one time in the western part of NY.
When the Grouse numbers fell drastically we quit going into NY to hunt. Besides that I hate giving a gun control state any license money to help support their gun control agenda. However this next Grouse season I may be back in the Ny Grouse woods, because we have lost so much of our Pa Grouse season, and NY is close and I want to once again hunt in the snow covered mountains. There are parts of our Pa mountains that run right up against the NY mountains and you need a GPS to tell you which state you are really hunting in. Usually nobody around for miles in that section of the forest and there use to be some real good Grouse numbers in that area also.
Looks like next year I will purchase an NY hunting license once again, now that our Pa Grouse season has lost a complete month in Grouse hunting time. If my legs are in good shape I will definitely purchase a WV hunting license also. The weather in WV is real nice during the 2nd season!
all the best,
Pine Creek/Dave
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