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Joined: 17 Oct 2019 Posts: 504 Location: New Jersey

[quote="Aurelio Corso"]No inspection because they give real good pictures so they say.[/quote
Ya that’s a red flag. Look through Aligoods listings. They’re the best I’ve dealt with yet. They’re in Guns International.

Joined: 17 Oct 2019 Posts: 504 Location: New Jersey

Swampy 16,

I have heard many positive comments on his business, it does seem however his customer support varies with each different gun purchased, I know the A10 guns come with a life time warranty to the original owner, and he gives great customer support to these guns!

I know his reproduction guns are very costly, I wanted one of his Fox guns but could not get him to come down to the price I wanted to pay. I could purchase an original for 1/2 of what his repro guns were costing.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith/Westley Richards Man

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Joined: 08 Mar 2019 Posts: 50 Location: Alabama

I would buy one of their "Superbird" guns tomorrow if not for the company's bad reputation.

Joe,

I would not give to much credence to the bad reputation, always judge a man and his business on 1st hand experience, not the words of others.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith/Westley Richards Man

Joined: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 515 Location: South Eastern PA

I own 2 RBL's and a Fox/Savage RBL clone. They have been fantastic guns, and I have never had a problem with them.

I did however buy a 16-gauge Fox Sterlingworth that came with an older small crack in the wrist behind the trigger guard that was not disclosed. I sent it back and told them to fix it or keep it. I got to back and I took them at their word that they did something to it although cosmetically you could still see the crack. 3 years later I went to have a recoil pad put on it by my stock guy and he called me and asked me if I wanted him to fix the crack. Those mfer's never fixed it.

That's my only CSMC story, so buyer beware.

Joined: 17 Oct 2019 Posts: 504 Location: New Jersey

I guess the moral of the story is proceed with caution.

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Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 1047 Location: Minnesota

If I have to proceed with caution, I’m headed another direction. There’s way to much bad publicity for a supposed high end shotgun.

I kept a brochure of the original Fox guns on my bed stand for several years. Every time I decided to order one I would call and the price had gone up and I never pulled the trigger to buy one. Then the RBL first came out and I sent them the full purchase price very early in the release. I waited for over a year, maybe longer and the gun finally arrived. I opened the box and the brass front bead was rolling around in the box. I figured if the quality control was that bad I wasn’t going to wait for a problem to pop up and I sent it back. The guy in charge of the gun room (forget his name) told me I should have bought one of the Foxes. That comment didn’t instill much confidence. The Fox 20 I saw was a nice gun, but the price increased rapidly. The original price was probably a steal. At some point they decided that they were no longer going to allow a three day inspection period on used guns because their pictures were so good. I suppose you have to trust them that the gun will go bang, have good wood to metal fit etc. Too arrogant a crew for me, but I do admire what Tony managed to pull of making a decent gun (RBL) here in America at a fair price.

I ended up buying used English guns and I never looked back on my decision. I now have over a dozen 16 bore English guns and the lightest one is 5 lb 13 oz and the heaviest one is 6 lb 4 oz.

I suspect horror stories make better reading. But, in all honesty, my purchases were w/o such issues. Repairs, when needed, were done promptly and to my complete satisfaction. They even helped me with prompt repairs to another manufacturer's defective product! Too many of us are quick to complain, but slow to praise!

Hal,

I agree totally!

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith/Westley Richards Man

I have owned several of their new shotguns. I have had nothing but luck with the guns and love them. I did damage the wood on my first RBL 20g after waiting a year for it and they replaced the forearm wood at no charge. I don't know any gun dealer or manufacturer who would do that. I would not hesitate to buy another gun from them. Good point made above that bad news travels fast but good news does not travel at all.

Joined: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 515 Location: South Eastern PA

My minor beef with them right now is that, as the "Official Fox" builder, they won't offer to fit new barrels to originals. I think a lot of guys with graded 20-gauge Foxes would love to be able to get a 28-gauge set added if they could.

ROMAC,

I agree it would be nice, however the cost to make and set up to due the work would probably be more than the profit made to supply it for Tony. I know you payed real good money for your Fox gun made by them, its why I do not own one. It would be real nice of Tony to add the 28 gauge barrels to the gun you payed big money to purchase however

I severely doubt you will ever see it happen because the demand would be so low.

all the best,

Pine Creek/Dave
L.C. Smith/Westley Richards Man