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grouser47
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:47 pm  Reply with quote



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Hay Guys,
Were the Remington model48 or 58's made on a 16 ga frame?
Thanks!

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Bill Layman
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:55 pm  Reply with quote



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Model 48's and 11-48's were on a scaled 16 gauge frame. Model 58's were on a 12 gauge frame only.

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Ron Overberg
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:58 pm  Reply with quote
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I have an 11-48 Sportsman that is 6.5 lbs. I have held a 12ga and they were a good pound plus heavier. The 16 is smaller. When I get a 20g I will compare them. I'm still looking for a good one.
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Charles Hammack
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:53 pm  Reply with quote
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Hello Bill:

Are you sure that the 58 is on a 12ga frame ????

I just went over to a case and pulled out a 58 in 16ga and put it on the digital postal scale and it weighed in at exactly 6 lbs 12 OZ now I didnt go and pull out an 1100 12ga to compair receiver width so i am just asking if your sure ???? it sure feels like a 16 frame and handles like one .


Let me know something just curious and happen to have one handy to pull out an look at .


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oldhunter
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:11 pm  Reply with quote
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Charles is right. The model 58 is not built on the twelve gauge frame. Not the new frame anyway. I have one and it weighs in at 6lb. 12 ozs. Although I do have a 12 gauge that weighs less. It's a Colt pump that weighs in ar 6 1/2 lbs.

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Bill Layman
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:00 am  Reply with quote



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I have the original parts breakdown for the M58. All gauges use the same action bar assembly, gas piston assembly, slide, magazine follower, stock, and trigger plate pins which leads me to believe that all the receivers were the same width and all the magazine tubes were the same size. I think Remington at that time made a conscious effort to keep the weight of the small gauge guns down by using less dense wood on them. The barrels were also made thinner and lighter.

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