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Winchester21
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:27 pm  Reply with quote
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I've always found it ironic that Dupont, now IMR says that 700X powder is ideal for 12 and 16ga loads. The irony is that you rarely see a loading for 16ga using that powder. Only light 3/4oz loads appear in their or others manuals.

I like 700X because it burns clean and you don't have to use very much of it compared to other powders. I've used it for 40+ years in 12 and 20ga loads (but even the 20ga loads are rarely cited now).

Note: I deleted my question about asking for loads because there is that great matrix of loads availble for it by another member. Thanks to those that did respond to the query.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:30 pm  Reply with quote
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skeettx
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:35 pm  Reply with quote
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Sure nuff

Went here

http://www.shootingboxes.net/

Clicked on the left side stuff

Looked around, and there is was

Thanks
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Winchester21
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:37 pm  Reply with quote
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Oops, I forgot that there is that great matrix another member assembled that shows several 700X loads. My apologies. I will now go and revise my first message to limit it to the irony that IMR doesn't publish any data that is useful for 16ga and 700X.
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skeettx
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:40 pm  Reply with quote
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THANKS SPR310 Smile


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:06 pm  Reply with quote
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SPR310 has it ALL covered-- Cool Very Happy
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spr310
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:14 pm  Reply with quote
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As Hodgdons bought IMR, any of the newer loads using 700X are listed under Hodgdons. IMR does not publish any loads under their name any more. All listed by Hodgdons. I'd say overall there are more 700X loads listed for the 16 gauge then the 20 gauge. It is a little fast for the 20 gauge except for the Federal hull.
There are 700X loads from the old Win CF hull, Win polyformed, Cheddite, Federal, and Remington hulls all the way up to the old stacked loads. A person should be able to find one to fit ones needs.
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Hammer bill
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:04 am  Reply with quote



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310 when I pull up hodgon all I get is loads for universal. I see no 700x loads. What am I doing wrong.
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skeettx
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:12 am  Reply with quote
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From the Hodgdon web site

Remington hull
shot 1 oz.
Manufacturer Powder, Primer, Wad, Grs., Pressure, Vel. (ft/s)

IMR 700-X CCI 209 BP G/BP 13.0 10,300 PSI 1,075

IMR 700-X CCI 209 BP G/BP 13.5 10,800 PSI 1,100

IMR 700-X CCI 209 Rem. SP16 12.8 9,700 PSI 1,075

IMR 700-X CCI 209 Rem. SP16 13.3 10,400 PSI 1,100

IMR 700-X CCI 209 Rem. SP16 13.6 10,800 PSI 1,125

IMR 700-X Win. 209 BP G/BP 13.0 10,700 PSI 1,075

IMR 700-X Win. 209 BP G/BP 13.5 11,200 PSI 1,100

IMR 700-X Win. 209 Rem. SP16 12.5 10,500 PSI 1,075

IMR 700-X Win. 209 Rem. SP16 13.4 10,900 PSI 1,100

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fn16ga
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:11 pm  Reply with quote
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And also for The Winchester 2 3/4" polyformed hull plastic base wad

IMR 700-X CCI 209 BP G/BP 13.5 8,800 PSI 1,075
IMR 700-X CCI 209 BP G/BP 13.8 9,500 PSI 1,100
IMR 700-X CCI 209 BP G/BP 14.2 9,800 PSI 1,125
IMR 700-X Win. 209 BP G/BP 13.5 8,500 PSI 1,075
IMR 700-X Win. 209 BP G/BP 14.0 9,000 PSI 1,100
IMR 700-X Win. 209 BP G/BP 14.3 9,300 PSI 1,125

These fit better in a 2 1/2 " hull

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/shotgun
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Charlie16ga
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Funny been trying to come up with a powder for target loading in the summer for both 12 & 16 gauge. I just decided to give 700x the first college try over international, clays, WST, and American select.

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Seems to give me nice patterns. I like it for my upland loads, but only have about a 1/4 lb. left.

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Jdnelson1
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:26 pm  Reply with quote



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Hello all -
I'm new to the forum and new to reloading in general... I want to find a good 3/4 oz load.
I've got three lbs of 700x, understanding that this is a good powder for this application.
I also have longshot and win. 572.
I've got Fed209A as well as Win 209 primers
I have a decent stock of rem. (black) plastic hulls.
I have BPI SG16 wads.

So far I've been loading 19 gr of 572 and 1 oz lead, and it's fine, but I'd like to get the lighter load figured out.

Since I'm new at this game, can I talk anyone into helping? Thanks - happy new year!
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Jdnelson1
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:27 pm  Reply with quote



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Hello all -
I'm new to the forum and new to reloading in general... I want to find a good 3/4 oz load.
I've got three lbs of 700x, understanding that this is a good powder for this application.
I also have longshot and win. 572. I've got Fed209A as well as Win 209 primers
I have a decent stock of rem. (black) plastic hulls. I have BPI SG16 wads.
So far I've been loading 19 gr of 572 and 1 oz lead, and it's fine, but I'd like to get the lighter load figured out. I can get some different stuff if needed...
Since I'm new at this game, can I talk anyone into helping? Thanks - happy new year!
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John Singer
PostPosted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:58 am  Reply with quote



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My go to target load is:

Cheddite hull (either Herters or Winchester)
Cheddite 209 primer
14 grains 700x powder
Claybuster 16 (AA clone wad)
3 pinto beans to achieve a good crimp

Laugh if you must, but it works well. This load chronographs at 1233 fps.


BTW: I am in Maryland. A couple of days ago, in a gunshop on the Eastern Shore, I saw a 12 oz bottle of 700x for $79.99.

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