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< 16ga. Guns ~ Now what did I find? |
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Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:38 pm
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Anybody ever heard of a Ducks Unlimited Winchester 21 16ga? It has very high grade wood and is highly engraved with gold inlay and gold ducks. It says Pachmayr Custom on the vent rib. A medallion on the stock says donated to Ducks Unlimited by Nan and Frank Pachmayr. The serial number is 66xx. |
_________________ 1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga |
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Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:59 pm
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I don't recall anything about this gun in Schwing's book.
Jay |
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Mon Aug 03, 2015 9:22 pm
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Location: Kelso, Tennessee
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Pachmayr has his engravers do quite a few model 21's after they left the Winchester factory,and some were for presentations or for fund raisers. I don't think Schwing talked about any post-factory engraving per se in his book. |
_________________ i reckon so. I guess we all died a little in that damn war. |
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:50 am
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Yes, his shop did several Model 21's and some amazing Parker upgrades too!
Quality of work is first class although some of the embellishments can be a little gaudy for my taste. That said I would not turn one down. |
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Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:14 am
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Here is a sample
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_________________ 1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga |
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:37 am
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If anybody has any additional information, opinion or speculation about this gun, please post or PM me. The engraver is unknown.
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_________________ 1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga |
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:13 am
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Location: canandaigua - western n.y. (formerly deerhunter)
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gaudi / BEAUTIFUL ! I'm not allowed to handle glass or guns of that quality ! I barely let myself touch Mike Campbells gun . I'm all in for shooting any gun made , but some are just beyond that ! |
_________________ Molly sez AArrrooooooah ! |
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:58 am
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Location: Desert Southwest
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:04 am
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I could live with that. Might have to sell an old pump to finance it. I'm more of a minimalist regarding embellishments, but that looks petty nice! |
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:42 am
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Its all your fault Dave. You made me covet a model 21 16ga. I been looking for one since handling yours at the 16ga shoot in St. Paul. |
_________________ 1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga |
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:38 am
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That wasn't my 21 at St. Paul. I wish!! It was most likely Greg's Loftness's. He's got at least a couple including a recent 30" 16 gauge that weighs under 6 1/2 pounds. |
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 12:50 pm
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16gaDavis wrote: |
gaudi / BEAUTIFUL ! I'm not allowed to handle glass or guns of that quality ! I barely let myself touch Mike Campbells gun . I'm all in for shooting any gun made , but some are just beyond that !
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I hear ya. I'm not allowed in the same building with them. |
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:15 pm
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Dave Erickson wrote: |
I could live with that. Might have to sell an old pump to finance it. I'm more of a minimalist regarding embellishments, but that looks petty nice!
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You need to sell an old pump you let me know ok? |
_________________ 16 - The only "True" gauge
16 ga. Citori White Lightning
3- 16 ga. Remington M 31's
16 ga. Ithaca M 37 Featherlight |
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:27 pm
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Dave Erickson wrote: |
It was most likely Greg's Loftness's.
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You are right...it was Greg. He shot his Model 21 at the Sporting Cay course. He and my son swapped guns for a station. I loved how it fit me and how light it was.
I was not looking for a high grade but when I saw this one, I put it on layaway. I picked it up this weekend. I got it pretty cheap. About the same price as a standard near new original model 21. After two counter offers I was hooked. |
_________________ 1909 Browning A5 16ga
1936 Very Sweet Sixteen, 1937 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot, 1938 Sweet Sixteen 3 Shot
1947 Sweet Sixteen Three Shot, 1947 A5 16ga Three Shot, 1947 Sweet Sixteen
1935 Superposed 3 inch chambered, 16ga conversion
Browning 725 16ga |
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Sun Aug 16, 2015 7:14 am
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That was an early 16-gauge Model 21. That style barrel marking was only used the first couple of years according to Schwing.
Pachmayr Gun Works upgraded a lot of Parker Bros. and Winchester Model 21 doubles over the years. They were mostly engraved and inlayed in West Germany. Pachmayr donated a load of these upgraded guns to Ducks Unlimited to be raffled off at their dinners. |
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