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< 16ga. Guns ~ Price check Remington 1100 16 ga NIB |
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Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:46 pm
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Joined: 14 Nov 2011
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Location: Minnesota
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One of the gentleman I shoot with knows my love of 16's and said he knows of a Remington 1100 16 ga from the 70 or 80's he thinks that is NIB. He looked at the gun and told the owner he would ask me. He didn't know barrel length but he said 26 or 28". I know nothing about 1100 and value. Anyone have a rough value of the gun? |
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Thu Sep 26, 2013 4:32 am
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Joined: 16 Sep 2006
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VR or PB will make a significant difference in the price |
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Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:15 am
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Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:16 am
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Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:22 am
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Joined: 16 Sep 2006
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The classic fields are no comparison to the 1970's gun milrob is talking about. The 70's gun, w/ a factory VR should go for more $$$ than the classic field. The latter is on a 12 ga frame and for many people is too heavy. |
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Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:08 pm
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FYI, all of the 16 ga Remington 870 and 1100 models are built on 12 ga frames. Always have been.
The oldest models have stocks which are not made of walnut but of a very light weight grade of tropical hardwood similar to mahogany. This changed in the mid-to late 1960s to American black walnut which increased the weight of the guns by about a 1/4 to a 1/3 of a pound.
The barrels of the earlier guns are also contoured to save weight. The later models have heavier barrels. The latest Rem Choke models have barrels machined from relatively non-tapered 12 ga barrel stock. The barrels on these new ones are ridiculously heavy. The balance of the newest barrels make the guns feel like "a pig on a shovel".
I strongly recommend looking for the oldest 16 ga models you can find. Otherwise, just buy a 12 ga model. You will have the ballistic advantage of the 12 which will actually weigh less than the new 16 ga models. Just how it is. |
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Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:18 pm
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Joined: 16 Sep 2006
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16 gaugeguy is of course correct. My error. The weight in the later Remchoke model is principally in the 12ga blanks used for barrels and the older ones are built on 12ga frames as he stated. |
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Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:52 pm
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Location: Virginia
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I was under the impression that only the standard 20 was given mahogany stocks. I do know that a lot of the early LW frame 20s also had mahogany as did a few early 28 and .410 guns. Since the buttstock fits all three gauges built on the LW frame, it was probably an attempt to use up the mahogany in the warehouse. My 1964 1100 in 16 definitely has a walnut stock.
Dan |
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Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:59 pm
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Location: massachusetts
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Dan,
I should correct myself. Only the earliest standard grade 16 ga. 870 models made prior to the mid-1960s have tropical hardwood stocks. The higher grade 870 models have walnut stocks. I don't think the wood used is mahogany either but probably one or more of the 80 various species of luaun from the Philippines. The stock wood is more open grained and not nearly as dense as true mahogany.
Apparently, Remington used a reddish brown stain and some type of plasticized filler to economically finish the wood to resemble mahogany. I found this out when I attempted to refill and refinish a few of these early 870 stocks. It was one bear of a job.
Best remember, the 1950's was well before politicians and tort lawyers managed to turn such minor issues as which exact tree species are used to make relatively inexpensive mass produced sporting gun stocks into consumer fraud. How times have changed.
The first 12 ga. 1100 models came out in 1962-63 (I think). They all have walnut stocks. I believe the earliest 16 ga. 1100 models do as well, but I think they first came out in 1964. |
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Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:00 am
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A great exchange of information. |
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