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Carlos
PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:18 pm  Reply with quote



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From Russia with love;

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ShotShell-Reloading-Crimp-Reloader-Tool-Equipment-16-gauge/252906681661?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140620091118%26meid%3D4bd5be610bf045d6b8e7c20f2acfde00%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252464921125
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:54 pm  Reply with quote
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I purchased one of these a few months back.

I'll just hit the important details, to save time...

1) Shipping is extended duration, as you would expect. Mine was 5-6 wks.

2) I was unable to produce a roll crimp on either federal or winchester hulls. the hull would buckle on the side prior to a crimp starting. These were once fired hulls, trimmed to 65mm.

(I have the precision roll crimper on my drill press and I can produce nice crimps, btw..)

3) I have not tried to crimp a paper BPI sourced hull yet. I have not settled on a recipe, or had time as of late to do so. I was going to wait until I had tried one of the paper hulls and took some actual pictures prior to a review on this site.

4) At this time I can not recommend this product. YMMV.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:32 pm  Reply with quote
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All these three Lyman's are now complete with wheels and handles Smile





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Carlos
PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:55 pm  Reply with quote



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I'd never seen these before, thanks for the feedback. I have an old original that will crimp old Federal paper shells, but screws up on any plastic. I too have a Precision drill press mounted crimp head that is very dependant on the properties of the shell. Econo-grade cheapo's just crumple. RXP/Nitro 27 won't roll, maybe because they are work/heat hardened by the time I got to try them. R-P Gun Club roll quite well, thank you, and so do some lower end Federals. I haven't tried many AAs, old or new, to provide a report. For my old Win. 97 I can get an extra shell in the mag tube (for Wild Bunch matches) if I trim split-neck old AA's to 2 3/8" and roll crimp.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:00 am  Reply with quote
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Skeettx: Do you have one of these yet?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1950s-Lyman-Vandalia-Shotshell-Reloading-Press-and-Dies-12-16-Gage-/371972413799?hash=item569b489967:g:vD4AAOSwq1JZMtoq
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Carlos
PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:18 pm  Reply with quote



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Interesting but I have a MEC Grabber in 12, and a Junior in 16. enough toys and too little $$ after buying shot & powder. Crimp heads in both gauges as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:32 am  Reply with quote
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16'er wrote:
I purchased one of these a few months back.

I'll just hit the important details, to save time...

1) Shipping is extended duration, as you would expect. Mine was 5-6 wks.

2) I was unable to produce a roll crimp on either federal or winchester hulls. the hull would buckle on the side prior to a crimp starting. These were once fired hulls, trimmed to 65mm.

(I have the precision roll crimper on my drill press and I can produce nice crimps, btw..)

3) I have not tried to crimp a paper BPI sourced hull yet. I have not settled on a recipe, or had time as of late to do so. I was going to wait until I had tried one of the paper hulls and took some actual pictures prior to a review on this site.

4) At this time I can not recommend this product. YMMV.


Tried this roll crimper again yesterday. Problem with mine is the shell base turns against the driver end, so the crimper end can't function. Perhaps glueing a piece of rubber or leather inside the cup that holds the shell base might remedy this. I tried lightly lining the crimp end, but no better.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 2:33 pm  Reply with quote
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Hello 16'er

Sorry for the delayed answer.

I was over in New Mexico at Whittington Center shooting sporting clays, double rifles and crazy with the Rocky Mountain Vintagers
What fun, what fun.

I have had the Lyman tool in the past, but moved on from there.

Mike

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I bought one it seams to work good
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Gil S
PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:34 am  Reply with quote
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Mike, every now and then on ebay I see the hamster wheel option for those old Lymans. Wink Gil
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:13 am  Reply with quote
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16'er wrote:
I purchased one of these a few months back.

I'll just hit the important details, to save time...

1) Shipping is extended duration, as you would expect. Mine was 5-6 wks.

2) I was unable to produce a roll crimp on either federal or winchester hulls. the hull would buckle on the side prior to a crimp starting. These were once fired hulls, trimmed to 65mm.

(I have the precision roll crimper on my drill press and I can produce nice crimps, btw..)

3) I have not tried to crimp a paper BPI sourced hull yet. I have not settled on a recipe, or had time as of late to do so. I was going to wait until I had tried one of the paper hulls and took some actual pictures prior to a review on this site.

4) At this time I can not recommend this product. YMMV.


With the recent move, I’ve gone through about everything I own... I found this roll crimper in a box of reloading sundries. Looks like it very well be a 12ga model, hence my previous frustration with trying to produce 16ga crimps. If I ever get around to loading 12ga, I’ll give it a try again. I’m quite certain I ordered the 16ga model, guess something was lost in translation?
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DanLee
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:51 am  Reply with quote
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I have one in 16 gauge. They work on paper hulls and new primed plastic hulls. I have not tried them on used plastic hulls. A bit of rubber cement in the base holder helps to keep the hull from turning during the operation. They work better the more they are used.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:48 am  Reply with quote



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the sellers description is mystifying. To roll crimp used plastic hulls the old crimp needs to be cut off.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 2:53 pm  Reply with quote



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I bought a cheap Russian crimp tool like it and it will crimp paper fairly well if mounted vertically (saw horse). Plastic hulls with a star crimp just follow their memory of the previous crimp. New plastic will crimp but it takes a lot of turns to warm it enough to roll (drill mounted rollers are better). As far as the spinning issue, I just hold the shell while cranking. $20 so I can work off-grid, not bad for a whim.

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Will this work on fired Cheddite/Herters hulls?
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