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< 16ga. Guns ~ MDL 48 16g |
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Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:18 pm
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Location: Plains, MT.
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I found a mdl 48 and could not leave it on the shelf. It is a good 90%+ all around and the weight is OK for a semi-auto. The one thing I noticed when collecting the empties is how badly the brass is looking. The head of the case at the primer is concave and the extraction marks on the rim are bad. I am not sure if the cases can be salvaged at this point. It shoots straight and birds die but the lose of the cases is the pits. Has anyone else experienced this with their 48? The cases were federal. I will be trying others next week in S. Dakota. I have some old 1 1/4 oz. expess loads which I din't care if I reload.
Best,
Ron |
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Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:26 pm
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Location: Houston
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You're talking about the Rem Model 48 Sportsman? I have an 11-48 (essentially same gun) and I've never had the type of problem you describe. Never heard of it in any gun. |
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Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:20 pm
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Joined: 19 Aug 2005
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Location: Concordia, Kansas
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Ron,
Several years ago, I was discussing headspace and it's effects on shotshell patterns with George Trulock of Trulock chokes. George was in the process of developing a way to check headspace and how it effected performance.
I do not remember how it came up in the conversation, but George commented that the worst guns for developing excessive headsapce were Remington 11-48's and that the 16 gauge 11-48's were the worst. I have two 11-48 16's and he told me some of the things to look for and dished primer areas and extractor marks were two of them.
I don't know off-hand of any gunsmiths that specialze in checking headspace on shotguns or how to correct it.
Hopefully other members of this board might have some information for you. If not, give George Trulock a call at Trulock chokes and maybe he can help you.
Hopes this helps.
Tell George I said 'Hi!'
Terry M. Boyer
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Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:27 pm
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Location: Illinois
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I think Remington offers a odd size bolt to make up for this in the 1100---the same principal would apply to the 48 as well--- |
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Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:35 pm
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Location: Plains, MT.
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I feel a little better now that there may be hope for this Rem. mdl 48. I head out to S. Dakota tomorrow and upon my return I will check up on the head spacing and an over sized bolt. Thanks guys for the guidance. I would hate to retire this 48 before its time.
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Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:38 am
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Location: Mpls, MN.
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My Remington model 17 chews up the cases pretty well, also. Always a nasty hack near the movable extractor on a fired shell. Never concerned me, since they go in the trash when I get home.
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Ted |
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Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:32 am
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Location: Plains, MT.
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The South Dakota test is complete and what a great experience. The MDL 48 worked flawlessly for the first half of my 15 bird limit. The Remington 1 1/4 oz. #6 shot were lethal. The shells all looked the same. The Rem, Federal, and Win all had extractor marks and concave case bottoms. The Mod choke was deadly on anything I hit. I was surprised that I didn't have even one runner. They were stone dead. It did make some retrieves tough when they were in head high cats and marsh grass. The dog had to stumble on them more by accident than by smell. The second half of my limit was taken with a Beretta 411E 16g. I used a SK and LMod and had great success. The birds were all dead on impact but I had a few less pellets to pick out. I used mostly Win. 1 1/8 oz. #5 shot in the SxS. I'm sorry to have missed Kansas but this was quite an experience also. Ted, I think I will just use throw away cases in my MDL 48. It won't be my target gun and I can live with a few lost cases. It is not easy to find the cases in the field anyway.
Best to All,
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Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:10 am
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Joined: 31 Dec 2004
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I have always been fond of Remingtons 11-48, Sportsman 48, and Mohawk 48. I have a few of them including one in 16 Gauge; it is among my most prized shotguns and has always been reliable.
Allow me quote from Patrick Sweeney's book "Gunsmithing: Shotguns"
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The Remington 48 is a blend of old and new. While it is a long-recoil action right out of the Browning mold, it comes apart with 2 drift pins & no screws.
Just like it's ancestor (Browning A5), the 11-48 is durable to fault, and you may see an 11-48 from time to time until we don't own self loading guns anymore.
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Sat Dec 09, 2006 10:48 pm
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Joined: 08 Dec 2006
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Location: West Tennessee
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hoashooter wrote: |
I think Remington offers a odd size bolt to make up for this in the 1100---the same principal would apply to the 48 as well---
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I'm new here but I have several Remington 16 ga Autos. On the 48 & 11-48 there were several different over size breech bolts made. They were clasified A,B,C etc..each letter size represented the next longer bolt.
Another problem that some people have is that not all of the barrels and recoil springs are made the same and there are different ring spacers that slide over the end of the recoil spring.
There is a complete RECOIL SYSTEM CHART in the Remington parts price list that shows the parts and part # per serial # series.
All 48 & 11-48 16 ga barrels made after January 1, 1951 will interchange. The serial #'s start then at M/11-48 ...5,515,000 M/Spts 48...3, 519,000
Jesse |
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:33 am
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Location: Houston
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Jesse,
Where on the bolt is the letter size stamped?
Also, is it true that some (earlier?) models use a a felt spacer in the recoil system? I've seen it mentioned in some literature, but not consistently, and I don't believe my 11-48 ever had one. |
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Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:54 pm
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Joined: 08 Dec 2006
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Location: West Tennessee
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I don't know that there is any stamp on the over size bolts. Our best gunsmith in our area is the one that told me about the over size bolts...also that he still had some in stock at that time. His name is Ed Mason. His shop is located in Cordova a suburb of Memphis, Tennessee.
If you want more information about him let me know. He is a Remington authorized Repair gunsmith.
Jesse |
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