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Charles Hammack
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:54 pm  Reply with quote
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I reflect back on ten years ago and recall Doug Oliver choking that Pheasant in the Dakotas , having great fun mixed with a little bit of unpleasantries as well , from a couple of sources .

Since that hunt , the wad has made its debut , had lots of fun hunts , made a whole mess of wonderful friends and much more .

Ole Ben always told me that those that cannot do will teach , those that cannot teach will evaluate .

Ole Ben was Senior Administrator for Christians Hospitals with a Masters in Sociology and a Masters in Economics , being an efficiency expert was quite the combination with the study of people .

Ole Ben shared with me a simple thing that I will pass on , he called it the Quiet Smile .

I went shooting with one of the new 12 ga the other day . I shot 3 rounds of Skeet and 2 rounds of Trap , I had 4 boxes of the 3/4 oz reloads and shot real well with them , no problems so I was asked to shoot the new gun another time with a box of 1 oz factory .

I am posting the pic of my shoulder to emphasize just why I built the wad mold , I can shoot my type shells and not get hurt but fill my game bags nicely

I sit back and look at the 3 brand new cases of DR - 16 wads that Mr . Kerr delivered to me at the state shoot and realize that I can shoot Exactly the loads that I want to shoot , how many folks can say that ?

I now know just what ole ben was trying to teach me all those years ago .

I am looking at My Quiet Smile .


regards CNH2

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skeettx
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:27 pm  Reply with quote
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Wow and double wow!!
YOU are a tender fella Smile
Thank you for sharing this and YES I like your wads
Mike

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wingshooter
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:34 pm  Reply with quote
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Thinman-

Good to see you post, reflecting on a decade gone by. You remain one of the best shots I have ever known, and I still appreciate your concerns and efforts when you were made aware of my arthritis onslaught when we were at Flatwater. 98% of the loads that exit my 16's are 3/4 oz, and I was thinking of you this spring when I filled four turkey tags with #9 shot.


Good to share your quiet smile.

Mike

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Charles Hammack
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:35 pm  Reply with quote
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2016 Standing Rock

Remember this one wild Bill ? Smiling




2017 Standing Rock

I drew 2 cow elk tags on the reservation while we were bird hunting we took time out to process and freeze the cows , then back to hunting birds .

Remember that one Bill ?

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Charles Hammack
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:29 pm  Reply with quote
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Now Mikeeee you know one cannot kill a turkey with 3/4 oz of #9 , shame on you for not telling those birds 😀 .

I am still drooling over that Ole gun of yours , she sure is purty .

I also miss your steaks , sorry I missed the couple years at the Flat water but things beyond my control at the time prohibited my attendance.

That being said , I am glad you are using a sensible load that doesn't hurt you . Mike Jordan of Winchester fame told Ben and I that he could not pull a trigger AT ALL due to shooting all those Trap Loads , he stated that he should have shot a common sense load like the 3/4 oz that way he would be still able to shoot when invited on all those fancy hunts that are being filmed where he has to fake shooting for he cannot pull a trigger.

Hey Mike I might just be able to help you out on your Arthritis pain , give me a call and I will share something I can send you .

Nice seeing you again Mike , hey how is Brent , Rocky and Milton ???

Regards. Nick
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:49 pm  Reply with quote
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Two outa three are good- Rockie and Milton. Brent is not doing well, remember him in your prayers.

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Barrel set 1- (choke) .000 , .007 , chamber 70mm
Barrel set 2- .025 , .047 , 65mm
Barrel set 3- .005, .015
Manufrance Ideal No. 5:
Choke: .000, .010, 70mm chambers
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Pine Creek/Dave
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:53 am  Reply with quote



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Gentlemen,

Fantastic memories guys, and I do like the double gun also!

Pine Creek/Dave

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16gaDavis
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:44 pm  Reply with quote



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the 2016 pic was when Nick broke out of the 16ga thing for awhile and decided the TOBIN would do nicely .! Unfortunately , we hit that spot last hr of the day on the last day at MOO - all kindsa birds !!! 2017 pic just goes to show that a 3/4 load of nines will take care of an Elk in a hurry also !!!

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Charles Hammack
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:17 pm  Reply with quote
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You know what Bill , I have yet to miss with that Ole Tobin. Going to have to make the firing pins a bit longer , now if I can only find someone who can do that , hmm will have to work on finding that person .😉

But now I have 8 more sxs to add to the herd in the last month. 3 in 16 GA. No less.

Oh your not supposed to tell what was used on the elk .
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Pine Creek/Dave
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:41 am  Reply with quote



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Charles Hammack,

The Master Gun Maker to fix your Tobin's firing pins is Rich Painter owner of Economy Gun Smithing in Economy, Pa. You can get his full contact info off the Internet at EconomyGunSithing.com.

Rich Painter is the Master Gun Maker who works on all my L.C.Smith Double Guns.
His phone number at the shop is 724-266-0232.

Pine Creek/Dave
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