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< 16ga. General Discussion ~ Lets talk about my 3 remington 11 sportsmans |
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Sun Jun 02, 2019 3:56 pm
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Location: va, ct, mo
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I hate to break them up. they are a family. a rare family looking for a good home.
are they pristine? no. but....
I have never seen all 3 skeet gauges in one place besides my gun safe. 12-16-20.
I have never seen all 3 skeet gauges WITH VENT RIBS in one place besides my gun safe.
can you see why I hate to break them up?
sure....if I decide to put the 16 here...yep, itll get grabbed pretty quick.
but then the uniqueness of the set is lost.
so........is there anyone out there interested in all 3 skeet guns as a set? if so, I will list it here.
and no...not for a steal. there has to be some kind of profit for all the leg work to find all 3, and save you from spending decades having to look.
toss some feedback at me.
thanks.
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Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:54 pm
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That's a really nice collection Nice jeweled bolt on the bottom one
I am very fond of Model 11's especially for late season upper midwest roosters with the 1 1/4oz magnum #4 16 gauge loads which may be over kill but none the less has proven to be bad medicine for the wily late season ring neck pheasant
I refer to mine as " the Ilion Jack Hammer"
Dumb question but what are yours choked? The three I own are all fulls from the factory I had two of them opened up to light mod .007 of choke They are really great shotguns |
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Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:15 pm
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all 3 are skeet choked and factory marked as such. all are around 1940.
thanks for saying nice. but not that nice. the 16 was shot so much its finish was worn, looks refinished, and worn out again. oddly enough, it doesn't miss on a skeet range w/ fed 1 1/8oz 9's.
the 20 ga puffs them too and the 12ga seems to shoot flat. I tend to grab the 16 first everytime I go out to have fun. stock is short, so I must put on a slip on. |
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Sun Jun 02, 2019 8:07 pm
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I have seen lots of Model 11s mostly plain barrel 12 gauge full choked. Few with vent ribs let alone choked skeet
That would make them unique and desirable in my book |
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:54 am
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exactly. thus the reason for the discussion. what to do with them. its like having a set of forks, spoons, and knives in a serving set, minus the forks. itll go better complete. just seems not much interest in m11's here. youre the only one hitting on the topic. |
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:50 pm
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I love my M11, I had it at the 16ga shoot that we tried to do last fall. But I hate losing my empty hulls from it. In 12 or 20ga it would not be a problem since you can buy skeet loads for them nearly as cheap as loading them. If I had the funds available I would be interested in shooting my NSSA skeet with them.
Now the only time I will use my M11 16ga at a registered shoot is if I have old hulls to get rid of and that doesn't happen much since I trim them down to 21/2" for my latest LC Smith. |
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Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:17 pm
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Sweet bunch!
Pre and post war beauty's..,..and tuff.
Very cool set. |
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Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:57 am
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as many know, the dead giveaway that they are skeet guns is the grip cap and BTFA.
I took me 30 years to get all 3.
now, find me someone interested, who doesn't want to spend 3 decades looking for them! |
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Wed Jun 05, 2019 2:03 pm
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If it were me, I would just list each of them separately on gb as separate listings, but all at the same time, on a penny auction. All three will go for what they are worth, and all at the same time. If someone wants all three, they can bid accordingly. If not, not. Either way, problem solved. Win-win. You could also list all three as a set on gb (I'm not 100% sure that's allowable) but I doubt they would go for as much as they would separately. |
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Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:23 pm
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penny auction? never. for what they are worth and what someone is willing to low ball, is not what a set like this deserves.
thanks for the input but.....anyone else? |
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Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:20 pm
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Model 11...pretty classic.
What do they weigh? |
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Thu Jun 06, 2019 4:42 pm
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never weighed them. but, they are heavy. |
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Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:04 pm
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As many know...
Please excuse my ignorance, but I really don't know.
How can you tell pre- or post- war Model 11?
And what is BTFA?
I have been an admirer of the "American Brownings" for years. My cousin shoots his grandfathers Springfield Auto very effficiently.
The recently discussed heavy bismuth loads may make me look for a full choke Remington 11 or a Savage.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/816096710
hmmm I really shouldn't have posted this. |
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Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:03 pm
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The immediately pre WW-II and the post WW-II Remington "The Sportsman" are the same -- one-bird roll stamping on the receivers, "The Sportsman" on the bolt and the small triangle of checkering on the grip. Post WW-II 12-gauges would have serial numbers over 700000.
When "The Sportsman" was introduced, in 1930 in 20-gauge, and 1931 in 16- and 12-gauges, they had the three-bird roll stamping on both sides of the receiver, The Sportsman on the left side of the receiver and a large patch of grip checkering.
About 1936, Remington reduced the roll-stamping on the receivers to one bird on each side and went to a smaller patch of grip checkering. By 1938, they moved "The Sportsman" from the left side of the receiver to the bolt. By about 1939 they went to the small triangle patch of grip checkering.
Remington Arms Co., Inc. never offered a Model 11 "Skeet Gun" per se, but one could get a SKEET choked barrel for a Model 11. |
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Fri Jun 07, 2019 5:54 am
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mr researcher, im confused with your claim that Remington never offered a skeet gun, yet, you posted the literature showing clearly that Remington offered skeet (grade) guns.
if all Remington offered was a skeet choked barrel for a model 11, why is it then that the pics in your skeet literature clearly show skeet grade guns having grip caps?
the field grades don't.
based on your claim, a skeet choked gun would just be a field grade gun with a skeet barrel on it, thus having no grip cap.
for the readers..........BTFA = beaver tail forearm. |
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