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< 16ga. Guns ~ Recommendation on 16 ga side by side |
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:41 am
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Hi all. New poster here, GrizzlyAdams. I am asking for recommendations on a 16ga side by side. I'm left handed and would be interested in used as well. I currently have a Fausti DEA SLX in 20 that I am learning to shoot sporting clays with for upcoming quail/pheasant season.
Any recommendation on new/used 16ga side by side, English stock, good for left-handed) would be greatly appreciated. I think a fair budget would be $5k.
Glad to be part of the group here!
Thanks,
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:01 am
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Well, this is just me but if my budget was $5K, I'd buy a Fox Sterlingworth in 16 gauge that was in good mechanical condition with good to excellent bores. I'd have the barrels reblued and as a left hander, I'd restock it for a custom fit. Ideally you'd be looking for one with a problematic stock.....broken or cut too short for most people so the value of the gun is reduced.
I just did the same (including CCH) on a Remington 1894 12 gauge that came out beautifully. I plan to use the Remington mainly for clays. By the time I have the chokes opened I will have sunk $3300 into the Remington. I may not get my money out if I try to sell it but i have essentially a new gun for $3300......not my plan to sell it. And I like it better than any new gun I might buy for $3300.
I am assuming the 16 required in this case would be more for actual hunting. I would probably not CCH it. Admittedly, the Fox SW 16 will cost more than a Rem 1894 BE but I'm pretty sure on a $5K budget I could come up with a pretty spectacular hunting 16!
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Last edited by canvasback on Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:17 am; edited 2 times in total _________________ 1921 Pieper 29" 6 lbs 10 oz
2003 Citori White Lightning 26" 6 lbs 10 oz
1932 Husqvarna 310AS 29.5" 6 lbs 7 oz
1925 Ferlach 29" 6 lbs 7 oz
1923 Greifelt 29" 6 lbs 1 oz
1928 Simson 29.5" 6 lbs
1893 Lindner Daly FW 28” 5 lb 11oz |
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:11 am
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 7:08 am
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I'd consider a CSMC RBL-16. Modern steels, 2 3/4 inch chambers, and can handle all types of shot. Been my go to gun, especially where non-toxic shot is required.
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:28 am
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canvasback wrote: |
Well, this is just me but if my budget was $5K, I'd buy a Fox Sterlingworth in 16 gauge that was in good mechanical condition with good to excellent bores. I'd have the barrels reblued and as a left hander, I'd restock it for a custom fit. Ideally you'd be looking for one with a problematic stock.....broken or cut too short for most people so the value of the gun is reduced.
I just did the same (including CCH) on a Remington 1894 12 gauge that came out beautifully. I plan to use the Remington mainly for clays. By the time I have the chokes opened I will have sunk $3300 into the Remington. I may not get my money out if I try to sell it but i have essentially a new gun for $3300......not my plan to sell it. And I like it better than any new gun I might buy for $3300.
I am assuming the 16 required in this case would be more for actual hunting. I would probably not CCH it. Admittedly, the Fox SW 16 will cost more than a Rem 1894 BE but I'm pretty sure on a $5K budget I could come up with a pretty spectacular hunting 16!
Great ideas here. Thanks!
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:30 am
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I actually held one of these today in Atlanta. It's a beautiful side by side! It's very similar to my Fausti DEA SLX. I also held a Merkel 280E. Felt like I was looking 4" over the rib. |
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:33 am
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Researcher wrote: |
I'd consider a CSMC RBL-16. Modern steels, 2 3/4 inch chambers, and can handle all types of shot. Been my go to gun, especially where non-toxic shot is required.
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This is another I have my eyes on. It's a beauty for sure and in the same price range as the Rizzini 550 and Fausti DEA |
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:04 am
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Yes, this is one that I would consider
I'd consider a CSMC RBL-16. Modern steels, 2 3/4 inch chambers, and can handle all types of shot.
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:06 am
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But this one is also worthy
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:16 am
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That's a real gem, Canvasback. |
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:46 pm
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Thank you Dave. Had it been a 16 I'd have plastered pics of it all over here....but it's a 12.
It's not the first restoration I have had done nor will it be the last. I just haven't found many 16's yet that are really the right candidate, Worked hard to try to get possession of a beautiful German 16 with 31" barrels last year. It had a broken, then badly repaired stock and horn trigger guard but.....you have to buy them right.
Have a Lindner Daly that should show up sometime next winter all done and am just getting started on that little pre WWI Sauer sidelock in the background of the first photo. Once again, a broken stock. |
_________________ 1921 Pieper 29" 6 lbs 10 oz
2003 Citori White Lightning 26" 6 lbs 10 oz
1932 Husqvarna 310AS 29.5" 6 lbs 7 oz
1925 Ferlach 29" 6 lbs 7 oz
1923 Greifelt 29" 6 lbs 1 oz
1928 Simson 29.5" 6 lbs
1893 Lindner Daly FW 28” 5 lb 11oz |
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:00 pm
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Deep inside the forest is a door into another land....... |
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:09 pm
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Beautiful gun CB! |
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:43 pm
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Some great suggestions. Figuring out the next gun is an adventure, which infects me too much.
That said as a first SxS, if you have a big budget 5k or so, I would tend more toward a RBL or Parker Reproduction. I like the Fox and have one, but you maybe looking awhile to find one that fits without putting a new stock on it. The additional steps make it more complex a proposition.
Further while you can put modern shells through the Fox, depending on the gun and condition of the wood you may won’t to hold back. A current gun like an RBL or Rizzini would have fewer issues. A slight adjustment through bending a stock for cast on can easily be accomplished.
Some of us are lucky and pick up a gun or two then stick with it for life. Some are like me and go through many guns looking for that prefect gun. I do not want to admit how many and how many blundering about things I have done. We are infected with desire for the next best thing.
I have three 16s of nine that each seem just right, and last season meet every requirement, but for the last four weeks my Dad’s hand me down Browning Superposed has gone to the skeet range with me, and I have shot it better than with any of my 16’s. It was the first gun I shot well at age 14 or 15 and it came to me from his estate so carrying it still connects us still. But I digress too too much.
You will need to decide if the SxS is an experiment or a long term commitment. Trying out several if you have friends who can let try different SxS gun’s out would help you a good deal. |
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Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:53 pm
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Great advice Michael. As you know I have the SxS disease pretty bad. Plus i only buy 12's or 16 gauge guns. But I have a early 1950's Superposed 20 ga in my safe right now (not mine yet) and it is bewitching me. I may have to step out of my comfort zone. |
_________________ 1921 Pieper 29" 6 lbs 10 oz
2003 Citori White Lightning 26" 6 lbs 10 oz
1932 Husqvarna 310AS 29.5" 6 lbs 7 oz
1925 Ferlach 29" 6 lbs 7 oz
1923 Greifelt 29" 6 lbs 1 oz
1928 Simson 29.5" 6 lbs
1893 Lindner Daly FW 28” 5 lb 11oz |
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