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readgriff
PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:24 pm  Reply with quote



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Out of curiosity I cut open a fiochi Dove and Quail low brass 1 once of shot #8.
The wad is a SG16 same as Herters
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double vision
PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2019 3:42 pm  Reply with quote
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Not surprising as most euroloads have the eurowads, either the SG16 or the Z.
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readgriff
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:01 am  Reply with quote



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Fiocchi are made in Ozark ,Missouri USA that’s y I was surprised to see SG16 wad.
I reload with SG 16 wads
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double vision
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:06 am  Reply with quote
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It's still a large capacity eurohull best comparable with the eurowads.

I haven't cut part a new Winchester load for a few years, but the last ones I bought maybe 10-15 years ago were using SG-16's in Cheditte hulls. The tightest shooting factory loads I've seen were PMC's using the Z-wads. 16 ammo went global years ago.
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readgriff
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:49 pm  Reply with quote



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What is a Euro hull ?
Fiocchi is not Cheddite hull what kind of hull is it.
I have quite a few Herters (Cheddite hull) but at some point I am going to have to buy shells to get empties.
So I’m trying to find a new shell or hull like the Herters Cheddite
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double vision
PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:48 pm  Reply with quote
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The eurohulls are the Cheddite, Fiocchis, and any large capacity hulls either made in Europe, or by these companies stateside. Cheddite is a French company and Fiocchi is Italian. The european wads like the Gualandi (SG16 variants) and the Baschieri & Pellagri (B&P...Z) are have a slightly larger gas seal diameter and are a good match for the hulls mentioned above.


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readgriff
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:55 am  Reply with quote



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Dave
Thanks for the information
I have a couple thousand SG 16 wads.
Who makes BP hulls are they Fiocchi or Cheddite ( don’t think there Cheddite no stars on brass)
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double vision
PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:01 am  Reply with quote
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That's a good question, readgriff. I just checked the BP website and I see they are currently selling Cheddite, Fiocchi, and Rio 16 gauge hulls. The Cheddite and Rio's both have the stars, and the Fiocchis are stamped with 'Fiocchi."

I'd give them a call.
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GrizzlyAdams
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:01 pm  Reply with quote



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Is this what you have? I have 250 empties ready to reload. I'm looking to start reloading and could use a good recipe for a 1 oz load. I'll be buying the essential equipment very soon.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/181/rNKGH7.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6733/NlHgrX.jpg

I'm mostly interested in sporting clays or 5 stand currently.

Thanks,

Russ

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GrizzlyAdams
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:03 pm  Reply with quote



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These are what I have. 250 of them ready to reload. I'd be interested in a good safe recipe. I'm in the process of getting a reloader and essential equipment.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6733/NlHgrX.jpg
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/181/rNKGH7.jpg

Thanks,

Russ

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skeettx
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:14 pm  Reply with quote
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Well done Grizz

Mike


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GrizzlyAdams
PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:40 pm  Reply with quote



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Thanks Mike. I'll follow this thread as well as it seems to be the same shell possibly. I have been going to the individual powder sites and found one recipe I'm asking about in my post (Alliant Powder - Unique). If it gets the thumbs up, I'll share here too.

Russ "Grizz"

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Griz, if you will add an [img] before your link and am [/img] after your link,
your pictures will appear

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