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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Winchester compression formed |
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:44 am
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Joined: 24 Dec 2007
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Location: N E OHIO
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:21 am
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Joined: 16 Sep 2006
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Heavy loads in #9 shot are an odd load, IMO. Nice hulls for reloading but other than burning up on trap or skeet and reloading the MT's would be my choice if I bought them! |
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Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:17 pm
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Joined: 19 Nov 2013
Posts: 381
Location: NW Arkansas
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RLR, you are right about them being an odd load. In the 70s a local country hardware had a couple of cases of Western 16 gauge high brass 9s for a very low price (to get rid of them). I bought a lot of them for next to nothing. I wanted the hulls as much as anything for reloading (Upland CFs were just coming out about this time, so I was still using the old Mark V hulls a lot). I did shoot some of them at the abundant bobwhite quail at the time, but did not like them--them seemed to be good crippling loads, even on quail.
What I did use them for was shooting crippled ducks on the water. Crippled mallards often assume a very low profile on the water, and can outswim a good lab in some circumstances, particularly brushy flooded timber. And several hunters can put more than one cripple on the water at a time, while a dog can only retrieve one at a time. I found the HV 9s did a real good job of killing cripples on the water with head shots. Remember this was back in the day of lead shot for ducks. So I always kept about a half dozen in my hunting coat for this purpose. Even doing this, it took a while to burn through all of them I bought!
Oddly, I have hunted with a guy who swears by HV lead 9s for pheasants (12 gauge). While I am fully on board with those who state that a killing shot on a pheasant involves pellets in the neck or head, I am not on board with using lead 9s to do it! IMO |
_________________ 16 gauges:
1954 Win M12 IC
1952 Ithaca M37 Mod
1955 Browning Auto-5 Mod
1940 Ithaca NID M/F
1959 Beretta Silver Hawk
Ranger 103-II M/F
Browning A-5 Sweet 16
Browning Citori Invector
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Posted:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 12:47 pm
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Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 1257
Location: Nebraska
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4setters wrote: |
Oddly, I have hunted with a guy who swears by HV lead 9s for pheasants (12 gauge). While I am fully on board with those who state that a killing shot on a pheasant involves pellets in the neck or head, I am not on board with using lead 9s to do it! IMO
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We have a member here who uses HV lead 9's in 16ga and very light charges of them at that, but he is a very high above average shot with many years' experience with them. I'm in the camp of size 7 or larger shot for the larger birds, just personal preference given my abilities. |
_________________ Bore, n. Shotgun enthusiast's synonym for "gauge" ; everybody else's synonym for "shotgun enthusiast." - Ed Zern |
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:42 am
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Joined: 15 Mar 2007
Posts: 601
Location: Virginia
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Those look like the skeet loads Winchester used to put up for the 16-gauge fans. Somewhere on the box it should say "Target." There's no speed limit in skeet, unlike trap, so the heavy dram equivalent is of no matter. |
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