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| < 16ga. Guns ~ Remington Wingmaster 16 ga?? |
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:00 pm
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My son is inspired by my 16 Ga (M12) and a whiz with his 870 12 ga...I have not seen a real 870 in 16 bore...what do you think of the Remington rendition? Ethan (my son) is in CA (Northern) and claims that the grouse are more common than mosquitos in South Texas (LOTS OF MOSQUITOS)...I can't give him much guidance on the Rem 16 since I have never hefted one...adivice appreciated.
(yep, we are a shuck gun family) |
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Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:30 pm
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They are biult on the 12ga frame.
I had a Wingmaster, sold it and bought an O/U, and then picked up a Remington youth model 870 in 16ga, and added a slip on pad to increase the LOP. Both guns are built on the 12ga frame. I'd probably keep an eye out for a used Model12 or M37 in 16ga. Probably wont find too many in CA. I havn't. |
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:40 am
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Unfortunately, the 16ga 870s have always been built on 12ga frames and the ones made since the mid 60s will tip the scale at 7 1/4 lbs+.
The good news: if you can find one from the 50s, buy it. I have a 1956, 28" bbl that weighs 6.63 lbs. The difference is in the tootsie roll forearm, light barrel contour, and a lighter density wood (not walnut). It's a nice handling gun.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:52 am
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| I'll second what Foursquare said. I've got a 16 ga Wingmaster from the 50's and it's a world apart from the newer 16s. |
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:01 am
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Perhaps he'd like one like yours. Go to:
http://www.whittakerguns.com/
click on used guns on the left and scroll down to the Winchesters. A few 16ga pumps at what you'd have to pay for an 870. |
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:44 pm
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foursquare and 662 are absolutely right. I have a 16ga. 870 made in '52 which weighs 6#9oz. with a 28" barrel and the beavertail forend. The old ones are nothing like the new ones. I also have a '53 model 870 in 12ga. that belonged to my grandfather which has the same wood and barrel length as the 16 and weighs 6#15oz. The older 870's were lighter in all the gauges.
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Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:54 pm
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| Square Load wrote: |
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The older 870's were lighter in all the gauges.
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Is this true for the 1100's as well or only the 870's?
I love my 1100, but never have gotten the hang of a pump, even a great one like my Ithaca M37 or an 870.
I would love to find a lighter weight, older 16ga 1100 though, if such an "animal" (gun) exists.
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Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:48 am
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| I guess not many people liked the new ones since they quite making them after only 4 short years. |
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