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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Russian reloading equipment on eBay |
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Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:56 pm
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Joined: 21 May 2015
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Couple of questions:
Do you need the speed of a drill motor to roll crimp plastic hulls?
There are some Russian made reproduction hand roll crimping tools on eBay that are tempting.
Not sure if the heads which look like the BP head will do the trick...
But, I'm more concerned that the hand crank won't create enough heat to roll.
Any inputs?
Thanks in advance, |
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Sat Feb 27, 2021 4:14 pm
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Joined: 21 Mar 2019
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Location: Texas
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Hand crank works better on paper. Kinda depends on your arm, but drill press works great. The 4 pin ones work best in my experience with plastic in drill press. |
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Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:57 am
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Joined: 05 Nov 2010
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Location: Southwest Arkansas
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3drahthaars wrote: |
Couple of questions:
Do you need the speed of a drill motor to roll crimp plastic hulls?
There are some Russian made reproduction hand roll crimping tools on eBay that are tempting.
Not sure if the heads which look like the BP head will do the trick...
But, I'm more concerned that the hand crank won't create enough heat to roll.
Any inputs?
Thanks in advance,
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I have one of the 16 ga. Roll Crimpers from Forest Camping (Russia Company). It works great. Anywhere from 6 to 8 turns with some pressure (not a lot) and they are done.
A friend of mine bought a 12 ga and a 20 ga Roll Crimper from them. They work well. |
_________________ Draw a fine bead on em Son! Bobby |
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Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:52 am
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Location: Tappahannock, Virginia
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I have the manual hand crank one in 12ga (ordered the 16ga, but got a 12ga model).
Took a while to arrive. Works fine on new 12ga plastic hulls. Haven’t tried paper as of yet. Let’s me load for 2.5” 12ga if I buy primed hulls without purchasing another reloader.
Seems to be made of a cast zinc alloy. |
Last edited by 16'er on Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:00 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:59 am
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Joined: 12 Sep 2010
Posts: 1973
Location: Maine
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Are these coming from Russia or have they already landed on US shores? Nothing against international commerce, but I'm not using MY credit card # on a transaction where the other side is in Russia. |
_________________ “A man’s rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.”
Frederick Douglass, November 15, 1867, speech in Williamsport, Pa. |
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Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:01 am
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Joined: 08 Oct 2006
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Location: Tappahannock, Virginia
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Dave in Maine wrote: |
Are these coming from Russia or have they already landed on US shores? Nothing against international commerce, but I'm not using MY credit card # on a transaction where the other side is in Russia.
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It’s EBay, so PayPal is your safest bet. |
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Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:43 pm
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Joined: 07 Jun 2020
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Of all roll crimping heads I have used, and I have tried just about everything, I have found I like GAEP (Italian made best) their OTC for paper hull and OTP for plastic. After that I like the old Lyman roll crimping heads, that can still be found on EBay now and then.
Others have stated it before but I add the key to roll crimping is warming the head, I use a lightly lubed cloth and friction, patience and persistence will yield the experience to produce great looking crimps.
Lastly while Russian stuff is cheap, GAEP heads with an inexpensive Barbour freight drill press does beautifully |
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Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:54 pm
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Joined: 21 Mar 2013
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Location: Northern New Jersey
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I have cut some Fiocchi 2 3/4" cut to 2 1/2" which leaves a bit of the original 6 point crimp. I have one of those old hand roll crimpers in 16g which makes a fairly nice roll crimp. There is no significant heat formed turning the crank a few times but they roll nicely considering they do not have smooth mouths after the cutting the hulls. |
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Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:55 pm
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Joined: 07 Jun 2020
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I have extra OTC heads for paper hulls if anyone needs one |
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Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:58 pm
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Joined: 21 Mar 2013
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Location: Northern New Jersey
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I would love to have a 12g roll crimper for plastic hulls. to use with my drill press similar to the Harbor Freight one. |
_________________ So many guns, so little time! |
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Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:33 pm
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Joined: 21 Mar 2019
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Location: Texas
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Dave: I ordered one from Russia long time ago from flea bay( eBay). No issues what do ever. It took about 3 weeks but I got it, they( Russia) only took 1 million dollars from my account after that.
No just kidding, no issues at all. I actually served with a few Russian soldiers and they are good people. Now the govt is another story, hey just like here. |
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Posted:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 8:48 am
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Joined: 21 May 2010
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Location: Victoria BC Canada
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Builder wrote: |
I have cut some Fiocchi 2 3/4" cut to 2 1/2" which leaves a bit of the original 6 point crimp. I have one of those old hand roll crimpers in 16g which makes a fairly nice roll crimp. There is no significant heat formed turning the crank a few times but they roll nicely considering they do not have smooth mouths after the cutting the hulls.
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This is the first step for the HARTIN crimp. Put in your load topped with an OS card and run through the crimping stations. |
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Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:40 am
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Joined: 21 Mar 2013
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Location: Northern New Jersey
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Thanks Carlos. I have done a lot of shells with the Hartin Crimp in 12 gauge. I stopped because it was so difficult to put the OS card on a MEC9000. I went to a much lower pressure formula and went with 2 3/4" shells after reading "Finding out for myself" in Double Gun Journal.
I do the roll crimp for fun and how it looks when I have lots of time. I also use it to get a few extra loadings out of my hulls. |
_________________ So many guns, so little time! |
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Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:16 am
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Joined: 15 Mar 2007
Posts: 601
Location: Virginia
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I bought one of the Russian tools a few years ago. It works well and doesn't require a drill press. The only issue I had was the overshot card dislodging when turning the hull sideways to use the tool and spilling shot. Fixed that by mounting it vertically. |
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