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chieffan
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:04 pm  Reply with quote



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After several months of searching I found 2 boxes of new Browning 16 ga shells. Problem is they are #8 shot. From what I have read #8 is to small for Turkey. Plan to hunt from a tower blind and the distance will be around 30-35 yds. or less.

Can I get by with using #8 shot in this situation?

I may be able to get some #4 or 5 shot. Would it be feasible to dump the #8 and replace with the #4 or #5?

Have always hunted with a crossbow but want to try with my father's 16 ga Browning Semi Auto this spring.

Thanks for your time and I appreciate any and all suggestions.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:21 pm  Reply with quote



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Not saying they wont work but in the states I hunt they would be illegal and in my opinion too light. Big gobblers are tough birds. I've never looked for turkey loads In 16 ga. but If I were so inclined and could get one to 30-35 yards I would not hesitate to shoot a gobbler with Fiocchi Golden Pheasant 6's or 5's same with Federal. Good luck pattern the gun to see how far you can consistently put at least 5 in the head and spinal column. Joe
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WyoChukar
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:27 pm  Reply with quote



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I would not use 8's. Can you replace the #8 shot? Yes, as long as you replace them with the same quantity ( 1 ounce for 1 ounce, etc.) of larger shot and have means to recrimp the hull. In a 16 I would recommend #6 or #5 shot.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:17 pm  Reply with quote



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I also would not use #8 shot. If available I’d use #5 or secondly #6. I’m talking lead shot .
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chieffan
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:05 pm  Reply with quote



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Thanks much for confirming what I was thinking. Will be working towards the #5 or 6 lead shot and do a reload.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:21 am  Reply with quote



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Federal makes a good pheasant load in #5 and #6, with once and an eighth shot, and it is high velocity, these will kill turkey out to 40yards. BUt with only an ounce and an , pattern could get thin the farther you go out. It is absolute must that you pattern your load out of your shotgun/choke at various distances, with all candidates.

8's would be illegal in most states, if not all, and not in any way ethical, practical or anything else. Now that is for lead, the real dense stuff like TSS etc, may come in 8;s.

If I were using 16ga, I have a box or two of older 1 1/4 #4 Winchesters. I would pattern first to see if worth a dang, but that is what I would use, because I have them,

Call them in close and shoot their neck, you will be alright, once you get to shooting at turkeys far away, things can get hairy.
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Bill K
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:07 pm  Reply with quote



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8 shot is totally verboten for Turkey hunting, and a 1 ounce is glaring naivetivity - that’s a target load.

Hey, it’s a free country and you can do what you want.

I’d buy box of more appropriate loads - Federal makes some good ones.

Personally I feel Turkey hunting requires hard to find 1-1/4 ounce loads of 4 shot. Check your local Runnings store - some of them have inventories of NOS.

Occasionally you can find 1-1/4 ounce loads of 4’s on GunBroker

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MSM2019
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:44 am  Reply with quote



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I have had good luck with 1 1/4 oz. of #5's for spring turkey hunting. I have had very spotty luck trying to get #4's to pattern well.

My experiences with turkey hunting is either #5's or #6's in the 16.....probably the best two choices for decent pattern density & pellet energy in the 16.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:23 am  Reply with quote
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I've always used #6's because after shooting a lot of turkey head and neck patterning targets at various ranges the #6's gave the greatest number of killing hits. Never drew down on a gobbler that didn't drop right there. I consider #8's great for preserve quail and have killed a few bonus preserve chukar and pheasant with #8's, but don't even carry #8's with me when I head west for chukar, Huns, sharptail and wild quail.

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justchris
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:33 am  Reply with quote
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Some Federal 1 1/4oz copper plated #6's on Gunbroker.
These loads are buffered too so they'll pattern better.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/894455151
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chieffan
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:36 am  Reply with quote



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Be nice if a guy could just walk in and pick up a box or two of any ga. shells right now. 12 ga are starting to show up a bit more in this area. I have been looking for 3 months or more for 16 ga., nothing within 80 miles that I found. Found a box from a dealer in ga. with shipping close to $80 a box. That is why I grabbed the two boxes of 16 ga I found even though they were #8 shot. Now to find a box of any ga with #5 or 6 shot to do the conversion.

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chieffan
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:37 am  Reply with quote



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Be nice if a guy could just walk in and pick up a box or two of any ga. shells right now. 12 ga are starting to show up a bit more in this area. I have been looking for 3 months or more for 16 ga., nothing within 80 miles that I found. Found a box from a dealer in ga. with shipping close to $80 a box. That is why I grabbed the two boxes of 16 ga I found even though they were #8 shot. Now to find a box of any ga with #5 or 6 shot to do the conversion.

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chieffan
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:39 am  Reply with quote



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Be nice if a guy could just walk in and pick up a box or two of any ga. shells right now. 12 ga are starting to show up a bit more in this area. I have been looking for 3 months or more for 16 ga., nothing within 80 miles that I found. Found a box from a dealer in ga. with shipping close to $80 a box. That is why I grabbed the two boxes of 16 ga I found even though they were #8 shot. Now to find a box of any ga with #5 or 6 shot to do the conversion.

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fn16ga
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:23 am  Reply with quote
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I have killed 50 plus turkeys with #6 lead. Once killed one at 67 steps by mistake .

It is all I used until I found about TSS .

That said most any load will kill a turkey out 25 yards.


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Bill K
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:33 pm  Reply with quote



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Chieffin -

I hear what you say about availability of ammunition these days, but hear me out.

I live in ‘anti gun’ Massachusetts and things are doubly bad for us. The one gauge I can find ammo for is 16, primarily because 16 shooters are strictly in the minority.

Now regarding hard to find ammo, I reached out to the 16 Gauge Society members and several helped me out - for which I am very thankful.

Therefore in a gesture of ‘paying it forward’ I am willing to help you out, I have a pretty good inventory and I am not into gouging - send me a ‘PM’ (include your phone number) and we’ll talk.

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