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| < 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Non toxic. |
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Sun May 02, 2021 9:00 pm
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| If copper is non toxic, (witness all copper bullets like barnes), then why doesn't someone make copper shot? It would be a lot cheaper than bismuth, wouldn't it? |
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Sun May 02, 2021 9:14 pm
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Specific Gravity
Bismuth 9.87
Copper 8.95
Lead 11.34
Hardness
Bismuth 2.25
Copper 3.00
Lead 1.50 |
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Sun May 02, 2021 10:33 pm
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| how do those numbers compare to steel? |
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Interesting idea. According to BPI Steel ~7.85g/cc
Pretty sure decomposed copper (oxide or sulfide, the aqua green patina on old copper stuff) is a fungicide, might be a reason certain entities wouldn't want it broadcast in marshes or swamps. |
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Mon May 03, 2021 12:38 pm
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Copper shot is available in Europe for some uses.
It is my understanding that waterfowl experience some toxicity issues from copper shot. |
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Copper shot is available in Europe for some uses.
It is my understanding that waterfowl experience some toxicity issues from copper shot.
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I guess that makes sense. |
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Mon May 03, 2021 3:18 pm
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Back in the early days of experimenting around nontoxic shot for waterfowl, Winchester/Olin did some testing of copper shot at their facilities in the Midwest. They had something like 100% fatalities when ducks ingested copper shot. Those tests came to a flying halt.
As to the availability of copper-shot loads from some manufacturers, those are actually copper-plated. I suppose that's so pellets are more easily found in shot game, just like with the nickel-plated shot. |
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Mon May 03, 2021 3:25 pm
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| That article is from 2015. Rottweil's site mentions nothing about copper shot. |
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