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treeduck71
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:26 pm  Reply with quote



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I am tying to find a few reloading recipes for bismuth shot using a wad other than a Remington SP16 wad. This is for a 2-9/16 chamber Auto 5. I would like to use the following components but am flexible.

Hull: Cheddite 2-1/2 inch or the black Remington hulls
Primers: Cheddite, Winchester or Federal
Powder: Green Dot, Blue Dot, Steel, American Select or Clays
Shot weight: 7/8 to 1-1/8 ounce

I saw that BPI has a few wads and Grafs had the WAA16 wad.

Thank you!!
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putz463
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:29 am  Reply with quote
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Is it a matter of not liking the SP16 or can't obtain any?

This guy has some available.....

http://www.16ga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23945

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makintrax73
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:37 am  Reply with quote



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I had a 7/8 bismuth 2 1\2 pressure tested with the SG16 wad last year. Unique powder. Might help you with a starting point.

Had better luck with Vectan A1 in 16ga, but it's hard to find now. I'd like to try this load in Cheddite hulls and primers and see it is tightens up the ES a little.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/15177464/pressure-tested-a-7-8-bismuth#Post15177464
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makintrax73
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 5:45 am  Reply with quote



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makintrax73 wrote:
I had a 7/8 bismuth 2 1\2 pressure tested with the SG16 wad last year. Unique powder. Might help you with a starting point.

Had better luck with Vectan A1 in 16ga, but it's hard to find now. I'd like to try this load in Cheddite hulls and primers and see it is tightens up the ES a little.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/15177464/pressure-tested-a-7-8-bismuth#Post15177464


My method for load development was this: Find a 1oz 2 3\4" lead load recipe. Substitute 7 /8 oz of bismuth shot in place of 1 oz lead, and use a roll crimped 2 1\2" in place of 2 3 /4 fold crimp. Then test for velocity (and consistency) and patterns. Then send in to test PSI.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:24 am  Reply with quote
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Midway lists the sp16 as discontinued...

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1013143787

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:28 am  Reply with quote
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https://www.firelinestc.net/p-21228-remington-sp16-rem-shotshell-component-wads-16-gauge-1-18-ounce.aspx
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MSM2019
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:57 am  Reply with quote



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makintrax73,

A bit of insight.

I am guessing that you wanted a "low pressure" load?

The load you have posted might be difficult to get more consistent. However a primer change only is where I would start. Changing the hull along with the primer means 2 variables, if you fix it or not you will not know which helped.

Fiocchi primers were designed to ignite single base powder. Unique (double based) being used for the load you have, has a tendency to be inefficient. You mentioned Cheddite primers, that is a good possibility, as are Winchester 209's and Federal 209A's.

IMHO I would go right to the Winchester 209.

I know the primer size is different and the Winchesters might be loose. There is a tool to fix that, both Precision Reloading and BPI have the tool.

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