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Pbking51
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:50 am  Reply with quote



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28" barrels, 2 1/2" JW Tolley sidelock. Barrels flat is marked".669" and "3 tons per sq inch". Nitro Proofed. Very tight lock up and wood is in excellent condition. Barrels ring nicely, bore looks great, some random light rust on barrels but not a considerable amount. 6.5 pounds. 2 small pits in Right barrel.

Measuremenys from woodcock hill, formerly Thomas Bland & Sons (Benton PA)

Comb: 1 3/4
Heel 2.5
Cast off 1/2
2 1/2 chamber
Right barrel 668
Left barrel 672
Right choke =cylinder
Left choke= .20 (light modified)
Right bbl wall thickness .032
Left bbl wall thickness .035


I will never shoot this but I see no reason why someone who fancies these guns wouldn't have a blast with it. Face is closed.

1/28/2022
Gun was taken to Woodcock Hill/ formerly Thomas Bland & Sons in Benton PA. The measurements posted were taken by them. Thank you to the member who recommended them. Very good people.


1/15/2022 - I had a serious buyer back out due to some family matters. Gun will be gone over and barrel wall thickness by a competent gunsmith in the next 2 weeks.



Call or text 570-862-3913 for more details and many more pictures
















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Pbking51
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:24 am  Reply with quote



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14 5/8 LOP
2.5 DAH
1.75 DAC
Cast right
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67galaxie
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Pbking51
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:54 am  Reply with quote



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I did not get anything
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:21 pm  Reply with quote
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UncleDanFan
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:04 pm  Reply with quote
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What are the chokes and what does it weigh?

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Dave in Maine
PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 5:28 pm  Reply with quote



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UDF: I see you with this gun in the crook of your arm coming up behind a happy English Setter locked up on something feathered. In the near future.

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OMG, what a beauty. I love sidelevers. What is the weight?

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Pbking51
PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 4:56 am  Reply with quote



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Weight is 6lbs 8oz
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Pbking51
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Price posted
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Pbking51
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Price includes shipping and full insurance.
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MaximumSmoke
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:13 pm  Reply with quote
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Great looking gun. Looks like it was Nitro Proofed in the Birmingham House according to the 1954 Rules. 3T per sq inch = 8938 psi service pressure, so the gun was proofed at about 14,000 psi. The gun seems older than that, and does seem to have a mark, the sort of which might have been put on about 1896 - 1904. The gun looks restored, of course, and has probably been re-proofed. If the barrel wall thicknesses are still sufficient, and the bores still measure 0.669" dia. it would be pretty darned nice and usable in this day and age with a bit of care in selecting loads (reloads/handloads).

Somebody please correct my interpretation of the proof marks; I'm fairly new to proof-mark interpretation. http://www.hallowellco.com/british_proof%20marks%20-%20syntax%20by%20date.htm

Cheers!
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Pbking51
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:00 am  Reply with quote



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Yes the gun is certainly pre 1900. The nitro proof was done in the 1963 per The crossed swords and date code showing the proof date.

Wall thickness is very good. I am happy to allow an inspection period for whoever buys this
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:02 am  Reply with quote
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Smoke: my thoughts about the (re) proof marks and DOM are here
https://www.shotgunworld.com/threads/j-w-tolley-sidelock.538103/#post-4584574

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Pbking51
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:38 am  Reply with quote



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Added some more pictures. Finally getting the hang of it! Wishing I tool more time with the pictures though its hard to make this gun not look pretty
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