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Nasty-G
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 5:18 am  Reply with quote



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What are your favorite non toxic hunting shells ? Thanks

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MSM2019
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 6:09 am  Reply with quote



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Location: Central ND

My own reloads:

Winchester (Cheddite) 16 Ga. 2 3/4" 2 pc. plastic hull
Federal 209A primer
27.0 grains Alliant Steel powder
16 Ga. gas seal (TUWGS16)
16 Ga. .028" overshot card
1 1/4" X 2 1/8" .0075 Mylar
20 ga. 1/8" felt wad
1 1/8 oz. #5 Bismuth
20 grains PSB buffer
Tightseal (assures the buffer doesn't leak)

1297 FPS 11,200 PSI

I have taken Huns, Sharptails, Pheasants and Mallards over decoys with this load. A little overkill for the Huns but it works.

All the components come from Precision Reloading. The data was in one of their original Bismuth manuals. Assemble the load in the order I have listed. Seems like a lot, but it is fairly simple to assemble.

The reason for Bismuth is, except for my Citori all my 16 ga. shotguns are older and I don't care for steel in those old modified and tighter barrels.

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Hammer bill
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:03 am  Reply with quote



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I don't shot non toxic.
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Sporting Days
PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 9:12 am  Reply with quote
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In California, we have to use nontoxic shot for everything -- from hunting to pest management, big game, doves, predators, etc.

I'm loving all the new boutique custom shell companies starting up. BOSS may be my favorite at the moment since they have such a large selection of 16 gauge, copper-plated Bismuth offerings as well as other subgauges. Right now, BOSS is selling 16 gauge loads in #3, #3/5 duplex, #4, #5, #6, and #7 shot.

Backridge Ammunition is another good one. They currently have 16 gauge Bismuth #8s and #6s in stock and sell them 25 per box vs. 20/box over at BOSS. BOSS 16 gauge shells come in appropriately colored purple hulls. Backridge is using red hulls for 16 gauge.
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architect
PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 7:08 am  Reply with quote



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I shoot mostly non-toxic. My favorites so far are BOSS bismuth #7 for grouse and BOSS or Kent #5 for pheasants, turkeys, etc.
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67galaxie
PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:55 am  Reply with quote



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Boss, Kent and Backridge make quality bismuth ammo. RST as well for shorter chambers and lower pressures. Boss can put fiber wads in their shells if you call and it lowers the pressure a little bit for the older guns
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DUKFVR
PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 5:58 pm  Reply with quote



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Boss in my 16 ga,

My old favorite for the 12was the old remington hevishot.
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Hammer bill
PostPosted: Sun Sep 26, 2021 11:51 pm  Reply with quote



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Favorit non toxic would be quail.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:49 am  Reply with quote



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Hammer bill wrote:
I don't shot non toxic.


If I shoot non toxic, which is very rare, it’s tungsten in a 12 ga.
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MSM2019
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:04 am  Reply with quote



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I believe that the great majority of hunters do not shoot non-toxic unless they have to. I know that I won't use it unless I am hunting on an area the requires it or when hunting waterfowl.

Maybe some one using a .410/28 for turkey hunting might want to use some of the dense stuff, but......

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John Singer
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:56 pm  Reply with quote



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I have been using nontoxic shot for all my hunting for several years now.

I use mostly steel. Steel is effective for ducks, geese, doves, rabbits, prairie chickens, sharptail grouse, ruffed grouse and woodcock.

I have also shot several turkeys with steel shot.

For pheasants, I prefer bismuth shot in sizes 6 to 4.

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Brewster11
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:34 pm  Reply with quote



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Have had decent success with ITX on phez and ducks but in general, nothing comes remotely close to lead which we used to great effect back in the day. Having said that, I must admit that the original HeavyShot no. 6 could drop ducks stone dead from great heights almost better than lead. Strange stuff, the pellets were all misshapen and non uniform but somehow it worked. Haven’t seen it around for years however.

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UncleDanFan
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:17 pm  Reply with quote
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I prefer ITX, as I have no problem dropping ducks at 40+ yds with it, but it's too hard for the damascus guns I shoot, so I'm switching to bismuth this year. I'm going to reload, and order a bag of 6's and 4's for my 16's and 12's. 6's for nontoxic quail areas where I might also flush a rooster, and 4's for ducks and geese.

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WyoChukar
PostPosted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:59 pm  Reply with quote



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I reload steel shot. It's affordable and I don't have any problems bagging ducks and geese with it.

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DanLee
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:00 pm  Reply with quote
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Kent Tungsten Matrix. Unfortunately, they are no longer made in 16 gauge.
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