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Dave in Maine
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:16 am  Reply with quote



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You may recall I noted the passing of member milpritpl this past Memorial Day. http://www.16ga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=226683#226683

Tom Leavitt was a good friend, an avid lifelong hunter and a collector. He had a discerning eye.

He and his wife, who passed last fall, had no children. He did have a substantial collection of guns. These have been placed by his estate with Poulin's Auction and will be sold in their auction the first week of November. There's a very nice writeup about him in the front of the catalog, giving some more detail on him and his life. The catalog is here: https://issuu.com/poulinauctions/docs/catalogday2-full?fr=sNDYyZjQzMTU4NTA Adjacent to the writeup on Tom is a listing of the auction lots from his collection - there are almost 200 lots.

Tom was very fond of the 16 gauge and there are number of fine shotguns in that gauge in the sale, from most if not all of the major makers. Many sxs, some o/u.

PineCreek Dave will surely lust after lot 2115. I think it would make an admirable grouse gun.

There are also a number of fine rifles, many of them new with the box or near-new with the box, a number of subgauge Red Labels NIB and so on.

I have no interest in this sale (though I might bid on a couple lots) other than making known to you the opportunity to keep these fine firearms in good new homes.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:15 pm  Reply with quote



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My goodness, it’s hard to imagine so many wonderful guns in one place.
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Dave in Maine
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:10 pm  Reply with quote



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Swampy16 wrote:
My goodness, it’s hard to imagine so many wonderful guns in one place.

The best part is the view days, when you can walk around with the catalog from table to table, checking them out, looking with your hands and not just your eyes.

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nj gsp
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:34 am  Reply with quote



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I've been interested in adding a 16 gauge L.C. Smith to my collection, as the only L.C. Smith I have is a 12 ga. trap double. I might just have to bid on 2115, as it is exactly what I'm looking for.
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Dave in Maine
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:07 pm  Reply with quote



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Doesn't get much better than that for the grouser: 16 ga Specialty grade, 26 inch, open and barely any choke, single trigger.
And that's just one of a lot of fine guns.

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Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for sharing.
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nj gsp
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:27 pm  Reply with quote



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It was fascinating to watch Day 2 of the auction unfold. I was amazed at how low the bidding was for some very nice Parkers, with the exception of an extremely rare 8 gauge that sold for $60,000. A 16 gauge Parker #1 frame in very good shape sold for only $1300 I think.

I just don't get why the Winchester Model 21 goes for so much money. Heavy, plain, just uninteresting from an artistic/visual aspect. They went for crazy high values as always, again I just don't get it...

Anyone here win or bid on anything from this auction?
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Dave in Maine
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:58 pm  Reply with quote



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I was there Saturday. Bidding on the lots I was interested in blew through my spending cap and I came back (after about 700 lots) tired but ok. A friend got something he wanted, a nice 30-06, Ruger Model 77, for 650. A few exterior use marks, but a bright bore with strong rifling and perfect mechanics.

I took good notes on the shotguns.

Hammer prices re Parkers:
8ga 60,000
lot 2084 AHE 12 ga/30.25 in, 7,000 vs. estimates 12,500-17,500
lot 2085 BH 12 ga/30 in, 4,000 vs. estimates 6,000-10,000
lot 2086 DH target - no safety, 12 ga 32 in, 2,000 vs. estimates 1,000-1,800
lot 2087 DH 12 ga 32 in, 1,600 vs. estimates 800-1,200
lot 2088 VH 16 ga 28 in, 1 frame restored by DelGrego, 2,000 vs. estimates 700-1,000
lot 2089 VH 12 ga 30 in, 1,000 vs. estimates 500-800
lot 2090 Trojan 12 ga 28 in, 450 vs. estimates 500-750
lot 2091 Hammer-Lifter 12 ga 26 5/16 in, 1600 vs. estimates 500-1500

Lot 2088, the 16 ga, was restored to new. I and a couple friends deep into shotguns agreed the buyer got a good price on that. At retail, bump it up into the 3500 range.

For the LC fans, lot 2115, the 16 ga Specialty grade 26 in barrels, single trigger hammered out at 2,250 vs. estimates of 1800-2500

Add to the hammer price about 20-25 percent across the board for auctioneer's commission, sales tax, credit card charge, shipping, etc.

No matter how good the internet connection and how sharp the photos, there's no substitute for being there and handling the merchandise. I had the chance to handle or at least look closely at most of the guns. I think the prices were fair. Most of the lots went within the estimates. There were a good number more that went over the estimate compared to those that didn't reach the low estimate.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:13 pm  Reply with quote



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That’s interesting to note on the VH #1, did it sell to an on-site buyer? That’s still a great price for that at $2000.

The #2115 LC Smith should be shipping to my FFL next week Very Happy

There must have been another internet pre-bid at $2000, because I put in $2250 as my max, and that’s what it opened at. There were no other bids and I won it anyway, so perhaps I paid too much…

It was clearly well-used and thus someone’s favorite judging by the photos and 30% grading. Perhaps I’ll send it to Turnbull for restoration. That’d be something, wouldn’t it? I think the wood on the stock is beautiful.

It will have to wait though, I imagine a full restoration won’t be cheap.


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Dave in Maine
PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:33 pm  Reply with quote



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Congratulations on the LC. I think you'll wind up thinking long and hard before sending it out for restoration or whatever. The photos didn't really do it justice.

As to the VH 16ga. I don't know who got it but I think it was an online bidder. Many of the in-person crowd were dealers (it became obvious as the day went on) and they were not too active on the earlier lots, where the Parkers and Foxes and such were.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:03 pm  Reply with quote



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I did save the photos from the online listing:









I do wish I had a top down view to see how far right of center the lever was, but I took a chance. It was exactly the LC Smith I wanted, so I had to try for it.
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