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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Herter's cheddite 16ga hulls |
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Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:35 pm
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Joined: 24 Feb 2011
Posts: 54
Location: God's country - Michigan's UP
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Looking to purchase some Herter's hulls. I realize these are hard to get, but somebody must have some that they are willing to part with. Let me know! Thanks, John |
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Posted:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:53 am
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Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 3438
Location: Illinois
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Wish I could help---been a longtime since I've seen any. |
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Mon Mar 14, 2022 7:47 am
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Joined: 01 Oct 2007
Posts: 962
Location: Minnesota
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I have several cases of factory Herters #8 shot. Got them on sale at Cabelas years ago, at I believe $59.00. I shoot up a case, load those empties 3-4 times and toss them and then open a new case of shells. The Herters hulls split at the crimp after about three reloads. Good luck on your search for Herters hulls. |
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Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:59 am
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Joined: 07 Sep 2011
Posts: 567
Location: wheeling, wv
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The UP is Gods country--I spend 2-3 weeks there each fall. How many hulls are you wanting, I can check my stash. I have also been told that you can load Federal 16s same as cheddite because they are both straight wall hulls, I have several hundred federal hulls that I have never reloaded. Maybe someone can weigh in on that. |
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Mon Mar 14, 2022 2:52 pm
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Joined: 30 Sep 2015
Posts: 640
Location: NEW SALISBURY INDIANA
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I have about 65 once fired herters, plus a bunch of other cheddite hulls and some federal, will trade for once fired rem game load hulls |
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Posted:
Mon Mar 14, 2022 6:57 pm
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Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Posts: 393
Location: St. Charles, MO
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I have some I will let go, check your PM
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Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:02 pm
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Joined: 08 Mar 2022
Posts: 91
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Stack... would you know/confirm the availability of Herter's old Pheasant load, 16ga 1 1/8 oz of # 5s @ 1220 ? Many opinion's out there, depending on where you live it seems. Many have said Herter's is oob. Here in Pa, they can't be found & i'm looking these last 2 years. Yet, in local Bass Pro, they have all the Herter's you want, if you want 12 ga. They even had 28s. So Herter's is still around, but locally they say they
can't get them. I'm not greedy, i'm trying to get just a few boxes. Do they still exist in 16ga? |
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Posted:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 2:20 am
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Joined: 06 Oct 2007
Posts: 2346
Location: West MI
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.410, 20 & 12 but no 16's in a web search...a bud bought some 12's in an Ohio Cabelas the other day.
https://ammoseek.com/shotgun-ammo/Herter%27s |
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Posted:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 3:36 am
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Joined: 27 Jan 2016
Posts: 490
Location: Oswego, Kansas
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The Herter's loads that Bass Pro/Cabelas sells these days are not the same hulls as they were a few years back. No longer the good Cheddite hulls that reload great. Luckily I have a couple thousand of the cheddite hulls that I bought back when they were cheap.
I have loaded them many times and recently trimmed them down to 25/8" for use in my short chamber LC Smith. |
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Posted:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:42 am
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Joined: 08 Mar 2022
Posts: 91
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What a shame; a double whammy? Can't find them in 16ga now and other Herter's hulls questionable?
Only plus i guess is that at least Herter's are still being made. Other internet savants had them as being totally discontinued. In their day they were an affordable option to the other brands. I just got around to them too late. Was reading one wintery night when i came across a discussion about them & finally decided to try some. Their specs seemed to fit perfectly with what many of the reloading gurus were reloading anyway.
If the current component mess ever straightens out that's the load i would try & duplicate. I've come across only 2 guys who had some and i even offered primers in trade, but they wouldn't part. Must be good. If anyone sees them, would appreciate a notice. |
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Wed Mar 23, 2022 5:50 am
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Joined: 16 Jul 2015
Posts: 2125
Location: Hudson,Wy
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I bought a few cases of them, not a premium load by any stretch of the imagination but they did just fine for clay target, doves and quail at moderate distances. The hulls were the big plus since these affordable shells let a lot of us build up a decent supply of empties.
I actually like loading the RGL's (Rem hull) better, but many here complain of short crimp life with those, about 2-3 loadings. Rem hulls vary in length quite a bit, so I cut all of mine down to 2 1/2" and love them for that. This makes for a thicker hull at the crimp mouth and I will eventually report back on their life span in this form. |
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Posted:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:03 am
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Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 1696
Location: Minnesota
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Probie I'm wondering if you arent confusing the stats on the original Herters Pheasant loads. I have both the 12 & 16 ga versions. The 12's are 1 1/4 oz at a rated 1220 while the 16s are 1 1/8 oz but at 1280fps; both 5's. If you just want cheddite hulls, you know you can get them here? www.ballisticproducts.com
Good luck in your search |
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Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:54 am
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Joined: 16 Feb 2006
Posts: 711
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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Loaded a bunch of Herters until they quit selling them. Also reloaded the Winchester Game load hull which is a Cheddite hull like the Herters and reloads with the same data.
The plastic in the Win hull seemed softer and more pliable and was good for 8 reloads instead of 2-4 like the Herters. The Win hulls were also more consistant as far as wear, they all wore out at the same time instead of some only getting 2 reloads and the rest going 3 or 4 like the Herters.
Walmart used to sell the Winchesters for $9.17 a box last year, haven't looked lately to see if they still sell them. They were more expensive than the Herters but had a much better hull with at least twice the reloading life. |
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Posted:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 8:43 am
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Joined: 09 Feb 2015
Posts: 818
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One thing people don't realize about the different of the cheddite hull no matter what brand of shell your shooting except the RGL. The life span of the reload many times depends on the color. Different colors have different pigment in the colors. So their is a different lifespan of the hull. Especially at the crimp. Difference if colors changes the life span . If you use the same load everytime. But by changing different loads of the same hull of the same color will give a different answer without proper identification and record keeping. |
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Posted:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:42 am
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Joined: 28 Aug 2014
Posts: 924
Location: Eastern Tennessee
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Now I just have to test this… Got a few bags of new cheddite green, blue, and red. I missed out on the clear and purples when available dang it. |
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