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Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 1837 Location: Central ND

I emailed Precision Reloading for 1 oz. and 1 1/8 oz. reloading data.

I received 2 very nice documents with good looking loads on them.

I tried to attach them here but, I can't get it to work.

The hulls used are Fiocchi, Federal and Cheddite.

Primers used are, Fiocchi, Cheddite, Winchester and Federal.

Powders used are Green Dot, International, Unique, Universal, Herco, 800-X, Blue Dot and Longshot.

Wads used are, CB0078-16, Gualandi 1816 (SG16-S), Z2M16

No Winchester 572, but Hodgdon has plenty of data for that.

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I sure hope you can get that posted, Mark. Wow!

Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 1837 Location: Central ND

Just email Precsion Reloading: Orders@precisionreloading.com and ask them for 16 gauge load data, for whatever payload weight you want.

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Joined: 17 Oct 2019 Posts: 455 Location: New Jersey

Careful with their Bluedot loads. I made the mistake of loading 100 back when I first started loading. They went together nicely so I thought I had a winner. They have the worst recoil of any 16 round I’ve ever fired. They’re WAY TOO HOT. I heard this from other people regarding any of their data. That was the only load of theirs I ever tried. They’re still in my loading room. They’d be fine out of a heavier gun like a steel frame Citori but not my grouse guns.

Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 1837 Location: Central ND

So let's get this correct. Their loads are not "too hot". Their loads are going to recoil because they built loads that have some velocity to them. They actually have produced good loads with Blue Dot and Longshot. If you want lighter recoiling loads they have those using International, Unique and Universal.

They will fit, they will operate any auto loader and 0 degree temps won't bother the loads.

Blue Dot and Longshot have no business being used for 1,200 FPS 7/8, 1 or 1 1/8 oz. loads. There are powders more appropriately suited for that.

Someone finally developed loads that make sense.

I understand that some powders are tough to get right now but that doesn't make it a good idea to use powders for inappropriate loads.

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Mark, what is their approximate turnaround time for getting loads tested?

Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 1837 Location: Central ND

I really don't know. I have used them 3 times now over a period of probably 4 years and each time I have had the results back in a week from the time they probably received the loads.

I send stuff to Tom Armbrust more often, just because I have known him since 1992.

During the cold months, when Tom doesn't test, loads go to Precision.

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OK, thanks. Tom has always been my go-to and I'll stay the course.

Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 1837 Location: Central ND

Way back when, Tom and I used to have a reference load that we shot every time we setup. Monthly we would compare the numbers and we were always within 15 FPS and 400 PSI of each other.

I wouldn't be surprised if that still might be the case. When I look at what Precision does with loads, it reminds me a lot of that same mentality. Use the right components for the job. It probably will ruffle some feathers, but it is the correct way to develop loads......and you won't be standing there, with your hand on your *** watching a nice rooster fly away because the load went fffwwoooop!!

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Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 1837 Location: Central ND

I had it happen a couple of times with the 20 gauge, Remington wad in a Federal hull using SR7625. It took me 2 missed opportunities before I realized what was going on. The first time I thought that the load didn't have enough powder in it. LOL it was ugly though and I can't forget those times either.

Member Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 371 Location: mpls mn

Joined: 04 Mar 2019 Posts: 1837 Location: Central ND

robp,

Blanks to Supersonics were the loads I developed back in the late 1990's to early 2,000's, when Precision was in CT.

The new loads were developed more recently, by completely different folks in SD.

I know what Swampy is talking about, but this isn't about hot loads (as in dangerous) it is about loads that recoil in the lighter shotguns. Precision isn't afraid to put a little velocity behind the loads (which they shouldn't be). Most folks don't understand that for a good load for all conditions you have to make the powder work hard, which tends to raise the velocity.

Light SxS's aren't the guns that most folks want 1300 FPS+ 1 1/8 oz. loads. They are going to kick. Many folks can't handle handicap loads in a 9 lb. trap gun.

The Precision data gives you a choice of light and heavy loads and they use the appropriate powders for each. If you are recoil sensitive and/or shoot light guns, the Herco, Blue Dot, Longshot loads are not the ones you should be looking at.

Member Joined: 02 Feb 2007 Posts: 371 Location: mpls mn

Good to know I'll have to take a look I would like some 1300 1 and 1 1/8oz loads come hunting season
I will have to give them an email to request some data