16ga.com ~ View topic - Benelli 16 Gauge Disappointment! Not Good!!

Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 57 Location: Atlanta, Ga.

Called today and talked with Benelli customer service and they were not interested in the least. I know I had only a phone jock on the line but I could not even get to a marketing rep. I did send an email and their reply was no 16 gauges will be offered in the Benelli family. I did mention our website and the need for a 16 autoloader. Also I mentioned the Browning runs and that obviously Browning was not losing money producing 16 gauge guns on limited runs. Maybe we should bombard them with email requests. I can only hold out hope that Browning might make a commerative Sweet Sixteen that I can add with my Japan Sweet Sixteen.

I met a manager from Beretta a few weeks ago. I asked him about the possibility of Beretta producing 16ga. guns. His reply was ... Why? Then again, would they make it on a true 16 ga. frame? The 28 I looked at was made on a 20ga. frame. They might make a real 28 but I didn't see it.

Member Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 425 Location: Maine

An ever increasing trend. The ones in charge are only after easy money. Sad

Member Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 781

The prices may be high now, but how many guns could the market absorb before the bottom dropped out of the price the market will support.

In a market with limited quantities of goods just one more buyer than seller really moves the price.

Jeff

You know, one of the biggest joys of the 16 right now is that when you find one, deals can be had. If we work at elevating the 16 ga. status, we eventually shoot ourselves in the foot.

I, for one like the fact that a I can get a vintage 16 ga. for 20-25% less than a comparable 20 ga. and a good 15% less than a 12 ga.I collect vintage pre WWI german guns, and these #'s seem pretty accurate by my research. Those of you who collect British or English guns may find different figures.

Really. Last summer, I went into a small gun shop about 1 hour north of my country house, and the seller had 3 Baker SXS's. I walked out of the store with the nicest of the three, and paid the lowest of the three prices.

The only problem... Dr. Wife was with me and immediately signed me up for addiction therapy.

The "Batavia Leader" 6 1/2 lb. 28' barrels, extractors, M/F, a true sidelock for $275.00. I haven't fired it yet. Maybe Dr. Wife is right?

Prussian Gun Guy said:
" Maybe Dr. Wife is right?"

Oh man, those words just sent a chill down my spine! Deiner hausfrau ist nicht richtig.

Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 43

Is there a 16 gauge autoloader (other than the Browning/Remington) of any age on a true 16 or 20 gauge frame?

Member Joined: 27 Nov 2005 Posts: 258 Location: Nordern MN

I've been biting my tongue, but now I'll toss in my $.02

Benelli is the exact opposite of my 16ga philosophy . . . Benelli is for the cool kids. The "look how much my gun costs" crowd. Bigger (3.5" 12ga), faster (inertia driven), better crowd. Black synthetic or camo synthetic. yay. Benelli is Johnnie come lately.

The 16ga on the other hand is classy, and timeless - like old double guns and model 12s with ribs and checkering.

I never did like benelli and I'm glad they don't like us (16ga) either!

NR

[quote="Prussian Gun Guy"]You know, one of the biggest joys of the 16 right now is that when you find one, deals can be had. If we work at elevating the 16 ga. status, we eventually shoot ourselves in the foot.

PGG, how can more 16 ga guns elevate the price of the existing ones? As far as vintage gun, you are shopping in a finite market. What exists is all that ever will. however more choices would take the pressure off the market and price would either stabilize or drop back in line with the other gauges.

Further, I do not see the market becoming glutted with 16 ga. guns. What I see is the demise of the 20 ga as folks learn that a 6-1/2 pound 16 shoots more effectively than a 6-1/2 pound 20 and carries just as well. I think what we are seeing is a reluctance of the market to face the obvious music if demand for 16 ga guns continues to accelorate. So some manufactureres will continue to try and surpress this phenomenon. however,I think is is a ball that is both rolling, gaining speed and its too late to stop it. So they can either jump on board or be run over. I don't particularly care. Folks get pretty much what they deserve in a free market.

On the vintage gun market, the more perspective buyers there are, the more the demand there is. When I purchased my last Sauer, a grade 8 16ga.ejector gun with 29 1/2" barrels, the seller said "it's a shame its not a 12 ga." He practically apologized for the gun being a 16.

The 20 ga. will continue to surpass the 16 among the masses, because the 20 is available in a 3" shell. Please don't argue with me on this next statement, but I think the 3" 20 ga. is the biggest hoax played upon the uninformed consumer in the longest time. Like I said everyone has an A-hole and an opinion. and this one is mine. I really don't want to spark a controversy on this subject. There, now I've gone off on a tangent.

Basically, back to my original point, as long as the 16 remains the underdog, I THINK (maybe "hope" is a better word) we as consumers can get a better deal. With regards to the more collectible pieces, 16's may be more rare, driving prices up. That I do understand.

That was what I meant by my prior post.