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mkrporte
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:09 am  Reply with quote



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Hey kids...I guess I'm left eye dominate. Shocked At least that's what the guys at the club are telling me. I know Browning makes some stick on dots for this problem. Any other suggestions out there?? Question
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:03 pm  Reply with quote
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Shoot left handed. Razz
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Me too. As Ajax said: shoot left handed.... and shoot alot.

It's the only thing I do left handed. Well, maybe not the ONLY thing I do left handed, but the only left handed thing I'm going to talk about on THIS forum Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:12 pm  Reply with quote
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Here's the 'Shoot Where You Look' site
http://www.shootwhereyoulook.com/

'Cross-dominance' (right handed and left eye dominant) is a terribly frustrating problem esp. if you've been shooting long enough to have the R shoulder gun mount/site picture firmly imprinted in your mind. Some shooters have lost the use of their right eye from disease or injury and it's VERY hard to change to shooting from the left shoulder.
One technique that some guys use is the 'blink'-start with both eyes open, call for the target (or see the bird flush) and move -mount (R shoulder) -blink the left eye- and shoot in one smooth relaxed but rapid movement. With a bit of practice, it becomes pretty natural. I'm sorta co-dominant and used the 'blink' as I transitioned to keeping both eyes open for the shot.
The 'dot' on the shooting glasses works also but is distracting to some folks.
Please let us know how things work out for you.

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I've got that prblem. I'm right handed and my right eye was injured while in the service. My right eye is all screwed up. Like the Rev says practice blinking. What I did was put up targets and just swing and fire without trying to aim. Pretty soon you'll get used to it, I just have to make sure I have both eyes open when I'm on the bird and ready to fire. In my case if my prescription for my glasses is off it screws me up as both eyes focus way off without the glasses and they can't get me even close to twenty twenty in the right eye. But I don't miss many pheasants or grouse. Good luck.

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I shoot with both eyes open. Its rare that I really "aim" the gun, looking down the top of the barrel - though I do close my left eye and do that sometimes. No idea why I do that, I just do. Probably why I have the occasional shooting slump - I'm not 100% consistent.

Shooting with your eyes open just requires practice. Pretty soon you get a feel for the sight picture and you're good to go. Best way to start would be shooting clays going away-and-across at a slight angle, like the next to last skeet station. That's not a very tough shot, but it puts both X and Y components into your lead, and gets your mind working on the new sigh picture.
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I used to have a similar problem. I'm left handed, left eye dominant... after 20-23 yards. In close, I'm right eye dominant. I've never heard of anyone else with this condition (read that problem). What I was advised to try was to put a pieve of scotch tape over my shooting glasses, over the right lens. One small 3/4" square of frosted type of tape, directly in front of my pupil.

Well, that was useless. Oh, don't get me wrong, it worked real fine, but now when I miss, I have nothing to blame it on. New Yawkers always need to pass the blame on to someone.

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I'm right handed, right eye dominant but when I spend the entire day working at the computer (surfing 16ga.com) and shoot in my Tuesday trap league my eyes sometimes flip flop dominance due to fatigue. I have the browning dot's and they help greatly. A smudge of nose grease on the left lense workes in a pinch if I start shooting and it happens during the round.

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Birdswatter
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:17 am  Reply with quote
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Same problem here....left dominance. I've corrected it with contacts, but can shoot just as well by closing my left eye after bird (target) acquisition. Took some practice. My biggest problem was, I shot fairly well instinctively prior to discovering the problem and couldn't figure out why I was sometimes "off".

With a handgun, when shooting left-handed (I'm right-handed), I switch to my left eye and hit center body mass just fine.
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Larry Brown
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I'm right handed but very strongly left eye dominant. Have never used the dot or anything like that. Acquire the target with both eyes open; close your left eye as you mount. Eventually, it will become automatic. (You'll get there faster if you do it while dry firing at home, and if you shoot targets quite a bit.)

Rev, co-dominant . . . is that like metrosexual, maybe?Smile
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Terry Imai
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I had the same exact problem that you had with left eye dominance. For the longest time (35+ years) when I was shooting wild birds, I would just blink down and everything was great and I would end up with more than my fair share of the birds. Then I took up Sporting Clays....It's kinda like a rookie ballplayer hitting 350 in AA but ends up hitting 201 in the bigs just because they are so many holes in the kids swing. Shooting a shotgun is based upon on precept, of eye/hand coordination not hand/eye coordination. Your dominant eye actually controls your hand to follow the target. Go outside and track some neighborhood birds flying around with your right forefinger and then close your right eye. You're still dead on the bird. Do the same with your left forefinger and then close your left eye and you will notice a "jump" because you really were not precisely tracking the bird. If you switch, you'll eventally become a more instinctive shooter and significantly faster since you don't have to constantly measure your shot. You can trust your eye and hands to make the shot....


Good luck....
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I just finished reading a book over the weekend by Gil and Vicki Ash (If it aint broke fix it). I think it might help you Its a wonderful book that would have 95% of shooters rethinking there game. They discuss in detail about cross eye dominance not being the problem people think it is. They think and I agree most of the time its target focus. You should not see your gun and the problem is gone if you look at the gun and measure the problem is there. Anyway it is in much more detail and understanding than I conveyed. I have never read a book on shooting that impressed me as much as this one.
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This should be posted on another forum. Tried, but it's to hard. Anyway after two snow storms, took the new LC Smith out in the yard to my 30 yard setup. Two Federal 5000 psi 7 1/2". As I can't aim I look at a spot and bring the gun up and shoot. I'm using 17" x22" paper now as I don't make anymore plans for building. Had two sheets up. 30 yards and looked at the middle, both barrells a little low and to the left. As you can see, no flyers and I must be really good or just plain lucky or maybe even LC Smith built a good shotgun.. Just wanted to show what you can do even with your eyes screwed up.[img[URL=http://freeshare.us] [/URL]][/img]


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