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fastarget
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:36 pm  Reply with quote



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Have been reading up on Merkel 16ga, was told there is a new model 1622
Anyone with experience with this model, and would know how it compares to the previous model 16ga. Thanks.
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Larry Brown
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:06 pm  Reply with quote
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I think you may mean the 122, which is a model made for the European market; some dealers managed to import some to the States. I recall seeing one or two at a Scheels store. They're sideplated boxlocks, quite attractive. However, they are a good bit heavier than the 1620's--like by at least half a pound, I think.
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fastarget
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:20 pm  Reply with quote



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Pretty sure it is a 1622, supposed to be a new model( I guess it could be a rebadged Euro model).........did a search, a couple at cabelas etc....
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Highcountry
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 3:57 pm  Reply with quote
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I don't see it listed on the GSI website. But that doesn't necessarily mean much.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:02 pm  Reply with quote
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In checking their 2007 catalog, the 1622 is listed. The description is a little confusing, but it seems the only difference in the spec listing is that the 1622 has "ornamental sideplates" but otherwise the same as the 1620.
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TJC
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:00 pm  Reply with quote
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I've seen a couple offered for sale on GA and Gunbroker but have not seen one in person.

I think like state, it's got the "sideplates" for those that like the look.

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Highcountry
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:16 pm  Reply with quote
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Here's one at Cabelas:

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/community/gun_inventory/inventory/wheeling/merkel/536381_merkel1622.jsp?hierarchyId=11893

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fastarget
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:05 pm  Reply with quote



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Anyone shooting a 1620, how do you still like your guns? and any merkels to stay away from ?
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Larry Brown
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:34 am  Reply with quote
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Well, that looks like the 122 I saw, although that one had coin finished rather than CC sideplates, and it definitely was not in the 1620 lightweight class. So apparently this is basically a 1620 with sideplates. Given that you can get a new 1620 for about $1500 less, I don't think I'd pay the difference for sideplates.
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fastarget
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:39 am  Reply with quote



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I agree Larry, after talking to dealers yesterday, you would be paying about 700 for the case hardened sideplates, very little engraving, and 4 more ounces...........hey the marketing department won on that one.
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TJC
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:31 am  Reply with quote
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fastarget wrote:
Anyone shooting a 1620, how do you still like your guns? and any merkels to stay away from ?


Love my 1620 especially since it came back from Briley with the tubes installed. Very Happy

The 47E is also a winner (my first Merkel) and has downed a number of birds in the last 2 years.
It is presently out at Wenigs getting upgraded wood on it and will have a satin chrome finish put on the receiver when it comes back along with gold plated triggers. Wink

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fastarget
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:37 am  Reply with quote



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TJC,

Have you heard anything negative about the 47s.?
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Highcountry
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:29 am  Reply with quote
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fastarget wrote:
Anyone shooting a 1620, how do you still like your guns? and any merkels to stay away from ?


I have had my 1620 for about a year now. It has performed flawlessly and handles very well for me. If you plan on shooting clays with a 1620, reload some 7/8 oz loads to prolong your shooting enjoyment. Laughing I read on another BBS about Merkels being rust magnets. That certainly has not been the case with mine.

While I was considering a 16ga, I was also contemplating an old American classic like the Fox. But decided that I wanted a gun that can shoot modern high power phez loads and went with the 1620.

I have been very pleased with the overall package. Very Happy

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fastarget
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:33 am  Reply with quote



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Highcountry,
How is it in Parker? we are in grand juntion, where did you find your 1620?
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Highcountry, the problem with any case hardened finish is it will rust faster than hot blued or coined finishes. you must keep them wiped down well or pay the price in faded colors and surface rust.

My MX8 Perazzi has a case hardened finish. Perazzi used to put a light coat of laquer over the case hardening to protect it. Where ever the laquer has worn through, the case hardening is soon to go if I don't keep it clean. I touched up the worn edges and exposed places with thinned out Tough As Nails fingernail polish after carefully wiping the metal down underneath with isopropyl alchohol to remove any acids or rust inducing salts. So far, its held up well.

Sunlight also fades cased colors, so don't leave your gun out in the sun in a gun rack al day unless you have a UV inhibitor of some type on the metal. Tough As Nails does this well. Perhaps there is a laquer or clear coat spray that does the same thing. An automotive paint shop would be a good place to look.
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