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Member Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 46 Location: Illinois

This spring it's my turn for a pup. My dog is turning 10 in June so I'm bringing home his niece in a week or so. Today I had some business near the breeder so I stopped by to visit the little girl. I can barely wait!

Member Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 113 Location: Arizona

Doesn't get any cuter than that. Congrats!

So, what's her name?

Member Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 46 Location: Illinois

Her name is Gretchen. I own her uncle and owned her great aunt (who I had to put down several years ago). I look foward to many happy years with her. Here's a picture of her sire (my current dogs brother).

Member Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1522 Location: NH

scatrgunr,

Great looking pooches. Are they wired hairs or Drahthaars?

Member Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 46 Location: Illinois

GWP's. Here's my 10 year old male nailing a rooster. He had a parathyroid gland removed two weeks ago and is recovering nicely.

Member Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 3439 Location: Illinois

Dogs and 16's have one thing in common----You just kinda get attatched to 'em Very Happy

I'm sorry to change the nayure of this post.

What exactly is the difference between a Wire Hair and a Drahthaar?

A Short Hair and a Kurzhaar?

And Duncan... stay out of this discussion, I'm looking for information, not recipes.

Member Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 46 Location: Illinois

PGG, the basic difference between a AKC GWP and a VDD Drahthaar is that the VDD has a strict set of tests/rules before allowing a dog to be used for breeding for a registered litter. The AKC only needs the sire and dam to be purebred with no requirements or tests other than that. Basically it means the breeding is more controlled in the Drahthaar world and you are more likely to get a quality dog, while in the GWP world you must do your homework more carefully to insure a quality dog. There is also a slight difference in the breed standards, mostly with regards to allowable colors. All GWP's descended from Drahthaars of European origin but the VDD does not register AKC GWP's. The AKC will however register Drahthaars as GWP's. Generally speaking, the AKC GWP's have become more of a bird dog while VDD Drahthaars remain more aligned with the feather and fur origin of the breed. All this being said, the best Drahthaar is not necessarily better than the best GWP and vice versa.

I hope this clears it up for you. Wink

Member Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1522 Location: NH

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Posts: 20

I have it on definate authority that spring has flushed, sprung,happened,whatever. Max has bred 2 of my girls and Cooper was succesfull with Ruby so at least three litters of Gun Bred old style Setters are expected here on the island this year. last year we had two. 9 pups total sold every one in a 10 week period. When spring comes to the islands in Maine I allways breath a sy of relief and believe that winter dosent last forever.

Member Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1522 Location: NH

CL,
Sounds like you will be busy with the patter of little feet soon. Very Happy

Good luck with all the pooches.

Can I over-simplify this (while not being insulting) by stating that they are both shorthairs, but one breed is much stricter.

TJC,

Some beautiful looking dogs there. Good luck with them.

Where were those photos taken? That background looks an awful like a place I know of called the "Knoll".

Member Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Posts: 1522 Location: NH

I would say they are both wired hairs with one breed being stricter. Nothing short on either the Wired Hair or DD. Very Happy

Those pics were taken at a preserve in Pa, Powderbourne last Wed. It was our last outing for the seasaon. Crying or Very sad

Tiy know tjc, I keep looking and can't figure out if the girls are coming or going?