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< 16ga. Guns ~ N. R. Davis gun question |
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:33 pm
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I have a 16-ga N. R. Davis SxS. What chamber pressure is safe for this gun? Can it use modern (Remington, Federal, Winchester) loads? What about modern buckshot loads? Kent Impact tungsten matrix? |
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:38 pm
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It's always best for that to be done by a competent 'smith hands on than over the net |
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 6:51 pm
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:07 pm
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Location: Southern Ohio
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N R Davis guns were made from 1878 to 1935.. If you can post the exact wording on your gun, we can pin down the time frame of manufacture. Whatever the age, it will have 2 9/16" chambers.. I wouldn't put anything in it that would develop over 7,500 PSI chamber pressure, no matter what a smith says.. MDC |
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:33 am
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Thanks--I'm leaving for vacation in a few minutes, and the gun is down in the safe...but I'll pick up this thread next weekwhen I get back.
I live in Southern Maryland, about 30 miles southeast of DC. |
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:20 am
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:28 pm
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Lynchburg is a 6-hour drive away. I doubt I'll be using any gunsmiths there. (But thanks for thinking of me). |
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:50 pm
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Consider taking it to Albrights, it's on the Eastern shore but that sure beats Lynchburg.
I dont know another smith in the DC area that I can recommend for classic guns, they are alittle think on the ground here...whoever you use needs to be familiar with these guns and if they dont produce a proper gauge to measure wall thickness at multiple points all along the length of the barrel find an new one smith.
When the vintagers is going on at Pintail Point there will be a crowd of them for a few days them just over the Bay Bridge.
Jeff |
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:48 pm
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Jeff Mulliken wrote: |
Consider taking it to Albrights, it's on the Eastern shore but that sure beats Lynchburg.
I dont know another smith in the DC area that I can recommend for classic Jeff
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No, No, No. I had a bad experience there. I had a 16-ga pump that didn't shoot to point-of-aim, so I took it to Albrights. The gunsmith kept it for 7 months, charged me almost as much as the gun was worth, and when I got it back, it shot further away from point-of-aim than when I brought it. The gunsmith there is highly overrated. I will never do business with him again. |
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Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:51 pm
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M D Christian wrote: |
N R Davis guns were made from 1878 to 1935.. If you can post the exact wording on your gun, we can pin down the time frame of manufacture. Whatever the age, it will have 2 9/16" chambers.. I wouldn't put anything in it that would develop over 7,500 PSI chamber pressure, no matter what a smith says.. MDC
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My chambers measure 3 1/8" from the breech to the rear (breech end) of the forcing cone.
I've measured 6 times, and keep coming up with the same figure. |
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Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:57 pm
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On the right barrel at the breech end, it says "SELECTED FORGED STEEL".
On the left barrel, "PROOF TESTED 16 GAUGE"
On the left side of the receiver, it says, "DAVIS CERTIFIED SHOTGUN" and "CRESCENT-DAVIS CORPORATION NORWICH CONN. U.S.A."
Under the left barrel, at the breech end, is stamped "1723", which I assume is a serial number.
"J" is stamped on the barrel lug.
Nothing else is written on the gun. |
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Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:59 pm
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Oops, I take that back. "1723" is also stamped on the frame and the forearm. |
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:00 am
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Your gun was made sometime after 1930.. Savage bought out Davis in mid 1930, in late 1930 or early 31, they also bought out H D Folsom, and merged the two companies to form Crescent-Davis. They discontinued the Crescent, in favor of the N R Davis..They continued Davis production till 1935, but sold guns from parts and inventory as late as 1942. The Davis guns are easily recognized by the squiggly line engraved around the barrels, about 3" from the breach face, some people, unknowingly mistake this line for the end of the chamber.. If your gun has 3 1/8" chambers, they have surely been lengthened..I would be very carefull what type of loads I use in it.. MDC |
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:13 am
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I measured the chambers on the inside, not on the outside. |
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Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:15 am
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Jeff Mulliken wrote: |
When the vintagers is going on at Pintail Point there will be a crowd of them for a few days them just over the Bay Bridge.
Jeff
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When is this? I might like to attend. |
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