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fin2feather
PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:18 pm  Reply with quote
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roll crimp wrote:
I don't hunt in camo, period! I guess I'm 'camo'd' out'?


I will definitely second that!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:30 pm  Reply with quote
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I do own some camo, but I don't wear it much. Sometimes for duck or turkey hunting, but not always, and never head to toe including face paint or mask and even the soles of my boots like they say you have to now.
Have had a couple of "old style" hunting coats but none ever fit really well, either way too short in the sleeves or way too big around.
Generally have just used a vest over whatever else I needed to suit the conditions.
A variety of clothing is needed out here on the plains. Pheasant hunting is done in conditions ranging from sunny mid 70's to below zero near blizzard conditions, sometimes on the same weekend! Shocked
I do have one old canvas hunting coat that I wear, it was my dad's and is about 20 years old. It is a wool lined, Woolrich canvas coat that sadly is no longer made.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:42 pm  Reply with quote
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Phil Bourjaily/CNNMoney.com wrote:
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While Kohls couldn't abide Velcro in Filson garments, Williams has refused to rule out modern materials such as Gore-Tex. "Our motto is 'Might as Well Have the Best,' " he says, "but what was the best in 1905 isn't necessarily the best today."


Am I the only one out here that hates velcro in the woods? I can't stand the sound it makes when I'm trying to sneak my gloves or a snack out of my pocket.

If it's going the way the quote sounds like, that's the death nell of Filson (so far as my business goes). Bean's all over again. The wool's going to start getting nylon blended "for durability" and then you'll start seeing advertising statements like "based on our 100 year old design".....made of nylon in an "ultra light" configuration (can you say cheap?).

Filson currently serves a niche market successfully. How can Williams think the current patrons are going to stick around if he turns it into another generic outdoorsylookingforyuppies clothes store; marketing the same crap one can get from Cabelas/Bass Pro Shop/whatever, probably a whole lot cheaper since, after all, they'll be getting their generic yuppy stuff from same China/Thailand/Vietnam in a whole lot greater volume.

How about Boyt? Are they still US made?

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:40 pm  Reply with quote
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[quoteHow about Boyt? Are they still US made?[/quote]

I don't know if they are or not, but they don't have a canvas coat. They only have three hunting or as they now call them "field" coats, made out of something called "weatherweave" and one of them doesn't even have a game bag on it.
They own Bob Allen also, there is one upland hunting coat in the whole line. It does say it is 100% cotton, but the top half of it is blaze. In my experience cotton dyed blaze orange fades very rapidly.

I have a pair of Bob Allen chaps that have got to be close to 35 years old. They were suede faced (now mostly smooth) with a heavy twill back. Still wear them. Soak them down good with Camp-Dri spray about a week before season and good to go.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:19 am  Reply with quote
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Seb

There's an old Bean Coat on ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-L-L-BEAN-Maine-hunting-Jacket-size-44_W0QQitemZ300120510310QQihZ020QQcategoryZ52391QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:55 am  Reply with quote
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The MBA business practise of the past few decades that is increasing is to purchase a Brand with high name recognition and quality. Deversify that brand to market widely and reduce the manufacturing costs by whatever it takes which more and more is moving off shore or China. Sales increase, profits increase, the Yuppies are happy and the stockholders/analysts are happy. Eventually you end up with a brand like Eddie Bauer. -Dick
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:42 pm  Reply with quote
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Filson stuff is awesome. Everything I have ever purchased from them is still in great condition even though I try as hard as I can to thrash it. Though its all very expensive, its return on investment makes the clothing a very smart purchase. In fact, I think I've probably actually saved money in that for evry single Filson upland clothing item I've bought, have run through about 3-4 cheaper brand life-cycles. I have their oiled duck canvas clothing in an upland hunting vest with game pouch (suspender style) leg chaps, wool upland shooting/storm jacket (mackinaw style) oiled hat. These items will last the rest of my life and they are already 8 years old. I won't waste my money on anything else. Basically with Filson, you buy things exactly once. Nothing else even comes close, at least for pure durability.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:36 pm  Reply with quote
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jig wrote:
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Filson stuff is awesome.


I think most of us agree it has been "awesome" to this point; the question is will it remain that way now that they've been bought by Polo or whatever.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:51 pm  Reply with quote
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I think the marketing wizards want us to buy their crap every year or 2 and throw it away and get new stuff. As previously noted, you only need to buy Filson once. We just don't fit in with their (profits) line of thinking. Sort of like prefering a 16 ga. Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:30 am  Reply with quote



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I live south of Seattle and have the luck to have participated in Filson's Friends and Family sale- so I have a lot of Filson stuff. Its quality and durable stuff.
That being said- their lodge line and other off shore imports are not the same- not necessarily worse than who they may compete against, but not the same quality as the US made stuff. We also need to recognize the off shore stuff is marketed to a different audience than the hunter or true outdoorsman.

I agree and hope Filson does not follow Eddie Bauer and leave the outdoorsman market.

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I discovered the joys last season of a nice pair of "hunting bibs." They are comfortable to wear, with expanded coverage of your lower body and legs with the cordura which keep the thorns and briars from poking you. Plus the pockets and shell holder built into the bib are really convenient for stashing ammo and small items for the hunt.

I found them at Wahls company's outlet store in Texas. The folks were very nice and obliging on the phone, and I ordered a couple pair at a very good sale price. I had been wearing them for sometime and liked them very much. I also felt good about buying an american product from Texas, USA!

I took em' out of the washer one day after a shoot and happened to notice the label. Made in RUSSIA!! Holy Moly!! Oh well, they are darn good hunting pants, so what the heck if my illusion is shattered.

Dos vidanya, Comrades! Cuban cigars are next, I guess.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:43 am  Reply with quote
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Rick. not our cubanos modelos!

I try to buy American made clothing and hunting gear, but I'm afraid that it's a loosing battle. Multi-global manufacturing is a fact of life.We can't fight it - it's here to stay.

I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face, but if a product is good I will buy it no matter where it is made! Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:26 am  Reply with quote
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This is a great thread. I didn't realize so few clothes were made here. I hunt with a Filson strap vest exclusively, and I love it. Wish it had some shell loops, but that can be fixed. Wouldn't mind getting a pair of their chaps. I think I'll check out the Filson web site now...
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Prussian Gun Guy
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:09 pm  Reply with quote
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Does anyone know where the Mother and Quilomene technical vests are made?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:00 pm  Reply with quote
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Peter, the Quilomene vest I bought 6 years ago says made in Montana USA on it. It's a small outfit, I'd be really surprised if they weren't still made there.

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