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woodcock
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:31 am  Reply with quote
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I have posted this site previously but recently received an e-mail indicating that a new supply of #'s 5, 6 nd 7 1/2 shot are available. Worth a look if you're 'Sick of Steel' or 'Bummed about Bismuth'. Not cheap but what is these days?

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Roper
PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:35 pm  Reply with quote



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Yikes! A one ounce load figures about $1.29 a shell and that's not even counting shipping.

I sure hope someone gets Bismuth back into production for shot...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:09 pm  Reply with quote
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woodcock wrote:
I have posted this site previously but recently received an e-mail indicating that a new supply of #'s 5, 6 nd 7 1/2 shot are available. Worth a look if you're 'Sick of Steel' or 'Bummed about Bismuth'. Not cheap but what is these days?

www.ecotungsten.com
Mr. Woodcock- What are your results with this shot? Is it indeed safe in older shotguns, and does it work like lead on gamebirds? Thanks GWW

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:33 pm  Reply with quote
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I just ordered some #6s. Well see how they do on ducks when I load a few up. Russ
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Terry Imai
PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:08 am  Reply with quote
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I've shot both Bismuth and TM and IMHO, believe TM wins handdown. When I hit a bird with the Bismuth, there's a slight pause before it seems the bird "knows" it's hit while the TM basically connects and kills the bird in the air. I believe it's because Bismuth is 92% of lead and TM is almost 100% of lead. I know it's splitting hairs but given the price of Bismuth, TM isn't that much more......


P.S. I'm hopping that Russ will presents the results of his test.


Just my thoughts....
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:17 pm  Reply with quote
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GWW--I've used this shot for decoying ducks and for some upland 'experiments'. Like Terry, I prefer Tungsten Martix over Bismuth. I can tell no difference in the ecotungsten product and T/M (or lead for that matter).
I load it like lead using the same components and recipes I have traditionally used for 1 0z.lead. I have shot it in an A-5, a Marlin 90 and an Ansley H. Fox----they all seem to 'digest' it without complaint.
It is expensive but I'm down to my last flat of t/m and needed to discover an alternative----ecotungsten appears to be that alternative for me.

Ron
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:45 pm  Reply with quote
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Roper wrote:
Yikes! A one ounce load figures about $1.29 a shell and that's not even counting shipping.

I sure hope someone gets Bismuth back into production for shot...


BPI is selling Kent TM 16 ga (1 1/16oz) at $2.80/shell before shipping. So there would definitely be some savings for a reloader.

This is how the Brady Bunch will eventually stick it to us - - outlaw lead and force to pay $3/shell for non-toxic. Can you imagine shooting non-toxic for doves?! Or what the future of clays will be?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:04 pm  Reply with quote
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Mr. Woodcock- Thanks for the info. Looks like I will order some of that Ecotungsten product too.

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