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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ Suitable Vintage 16 ga. Pheasant loads ? |
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Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:10 am
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Since our good friend REVDocDrew and I have been bantering this topic about before our get together next week in the Dakota's. I thought I would open up this highly opinionated subject for discussion.
What's a reasonable Pheasant load to shoot in a vintage Parker/L.C/Fox etc that will do it's intended job well and leave these fine old guns intact.
I chuckled when another of our trip mates told me he was stocking up on 1500fps 12ga. 1 3/8oz # 4's.
My reply was that I was quite sure my DH, VH and Damascus hammer gun 16's would not appreciate me shoving a cannon load down their throats.
I have never had a problem shooting 1oz # 5's and sixes at early season Kansas birds with deadly results using good discretion on shot selection.
I'm also tucking away my modern sxs 12 for the heavy stuff if those S.D. cocks laugh at my old girls.
Cheers,
Brad |
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Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:33 am
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Location: Michigan
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Brad, you're DH and VH will handle anything your shoulder can.
As for the hammer gun, that should be sent to Michigan for grouse hunting, with nice light 7/8 oz loads.
Are you looking for reload info, or store bought ammo for the other guns?
I hear those BP F2's are good loads. I don't hunt wild Pheasant, so I really can't say. Isn't it boring walking around in those open corn fields all day long? |
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Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:47 am
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Dave,
About the most I can stomach putting in my VH and DH's would be my
2 3/4 Fiocchi #5's ,1 1/8 1295fps. My VH is choked 0.18/0.29 so that combination should have a respectable punch to it.
The Hammer gun arrived about two hours ago from Dale Edmonds.
The check hook work that Russ Bickle did is exceptional and as usual Dale's work is great. The finished gun exceeded my lofty expectations big time ! |
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Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:23 am
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I told you it would work, and make one beautiful gun.
I'm very happy for you, and jealous.
I see nothing wrong with sticking with this load: 2 3/4 Fiocchi #5's ,1 1/8 1295fps. |
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Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:28 pm
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Brad6260 wrote: |
Dave,
About the most I can stomach putting in my VH and DH's would be my
2 3/4 Fiocchi #5's ,1 1/8 1295fps. My VH is choked 0.18/0.29 so that combination should have a respectable punch to it.
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I reload all of my hunting loads but I have heard very good things from people that have used the Remington Game Load 1 ounce with #6s.
But if you stick with the Fiocchi's you won't have to worry about the good Reverend bumming shells from you. I understand he can't handle the recoil. |
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Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:24 pm
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Last edited by mike campbell on Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:37 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Posted:
Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:09 pm
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:29 am
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I use the rem 1oz game load in my fox and lefeaver with good results and no problems with the weapon.
Joe |
_________________ Interested in older US made SxS and upland hunting. New to reloading shot shells and looking for info and advice. |
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:15 pm
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Perhaps you might break from traditional thinking and load yourself up some nice 3/4 or 13/16 OZ loads of 6's or 7.5's @ 1400 Fps and give the wood on your ole guns a rest and play havoc on the birds .
Regards Charles |
Last edited by Charles Hammack on Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:20 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:29 pm
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Hopefully I will be able to get good results with the 2.5" RST 1oz #6's
and be done with it. I believe Morris told me they are around 6000psi which should make my girls happy including the "0" frame hammer gun.
If not I'll get out the Fiocchi's and put away the "0" frame. |
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Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:21 am
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I had great luck withe Gamebore 2 1/2 - 1OZ - english No 6s on the Standing Rock Hunt. These shells have the traditional fibre (limey spelling) wads. |
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Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:55 pm
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I have used the gamebore loads often too. I like them. They do not seem to reload well though, I like to roll crimp and these seem to need re-folded not transformed to roll crimps. |
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Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:58 pm
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Last edited by MaximumSmoke on Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:15 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Posted:
Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:48 am
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Hi, i've had great success with RST #5 this season. No problem with knocking down birds dead. They work. I'm a great fan of #5 shot and even with 1 oz loads they work great, if.......you don't go crazy and try and shoot birds at over 40yds. I know, just common sense.
Anyway, my vote is for RST.
All the best!
Greg |
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Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:45 pm
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RST 2.5" in 5s.
I use them in my older Fox Sterly with short chambers. |
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