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| < 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ 16 ga. hulls |
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Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:52 pm
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| Which is better the Fiochhi or the cheddite I can get the 616 primers locally best wad for 1 oz |
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:37 am
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| I prefer the Cheddite hulls. |
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:54 am
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| OK, Cheddite hulls seem to be popular, but seem awful expensive. Are they good or just available? How many GOOD reloads can you get out of them? |
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:21 pm
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I get 8 to 10 out of mine, but they're all low pressure loads.
Your loads may vary.
I load Cheddite hulls in 20,16, and 12 gauge.
I can't get the 28 gauge hulls to load worth a darn. |
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:23 pm
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| dogchaser37 wrote: |
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OK, Cheddite hulls seem to be popular, but seem awful expensive. Are they good or just available? How many GOOD reloads can you get out of them?
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Graf&Sons sells them for $12.59 per hundred or you can buy loaded Wincester Super X (the ones made in Australia) and make your own once fired hulls. I get 6 - 8 loads before they start splitting then trim them to 2 9/16th inches and get 4 or 5 more loadings using a roll crimp. |
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:14 pm
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Location: Eagle, Nebraska
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| I use them almost interchangeably. I do get longer life out of the Cheddite hulls. And I think Cheddites roll crimp easier, but it may just be me. |
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:31 pm
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| Which Winchester 16 ga loads are made in Australia? |
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Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:11 pm
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| The 16 gauge Super X in the Silver box. They are only available in #6 and #8 shot. Slightly less velocity and recoil than Remington's Game Loads. |
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Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:48 pm
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Location: New Mexico Territory
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Gentlemen,
I have found a few boxes of Super X Game loads, 2 3/4", 2 1/2 dram, 1 oz 8's. The hull is red and ribbed.
Any idea of pressure in these factory loads?
How would these reload?
I have not found a "suitable" load in the low pressure group, assuming these are Winchester WAA CF hulls?
Am I correct in seeing some loads with 20 gauge wads?
Mark |
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Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:28 pm
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| longgunnm wrote: |
Gentlemen,
I have found a few boxes of Super X Game loads, 2 3/4", 2 1/2 dram, 1 oz 8's. The hull is red and ribbed.
Any idea of pressure in these factory loads?
How would these reload?
I have not found a "suitable" load in the low pressure group, assuming these are Winchester WAA CF hulls?
Am I correct in seeing some loads with 20 gauge wads?
Mark
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Current Winchester Super X are not compression formed hulls. They are a Cheddite or Cheddite clone of the Reifenhauser design.
When tested last they produced an average velocity of 1160 fps at 9300 psi chamber pressure.
These hull reload nicely, use Cheddite loading data.
20 gauge wads are recommended for use in Remington Game Load (Black Hulls) or SP hulls (Green Hulls) and Winchester "compression" formed hulls. |
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Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:54 pm
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Joined: 12 Dec 2008
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Location: New Mexico Territory
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Twice Barrel,
Thank you for your answer.
These are in a silver box and I forgot to look at the crimp, 6 or 8.
I can look at Cheddite hull information in the low pressure group?
Mark |
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:47 am
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Location: NW Florida
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| I shorten the Win Super X and load them just like the Cheddite 2.5in hulls with a six point crimp. Can't tell the diff. Bob |
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Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:08 pm
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Joined: 12 Dec 2008
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Location: New Mexico Territory
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Shot a box of these Super X game loads today. They are indeed poly-formed hulls with a basewad, not compression formed.
When I start loading, I will use Cheddite hull data.
Mark |
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