16ga.com ~ View topic - Need clarification on 16ga. wad nomenclature.

Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 33

Can someone shed a light on wad nomenclature. In a previous thread a few folks recommended looking at Hodgdons website for a 1oz 16ga load in the Fed hull. One of the 1 oz loads I'm interested in calls for what Hodgdon refers to as a BPG/BP wad. The problem is, I can't find this specific wad nomenclature referenced on Ballistic Products, Graffs or Precisions website. I've seen some of you guys mention the SG16 and the SPG 16. Are these wads one in the same? If not, which wad is Hodgdon refering to in their load data and where can I find it? I'm familiar with the SP-16 Remington wad and realize it's a 1 1/8 wad.

Thanks for all the help. I just want to ensure I order and use the correct componets. I never realized how confusing this darn 16 loading can be.

MOJO

MOJO,
I had the same question Friday.
When I called Hodgdon, they were closed.
BPI assured me the BP G/BP were SG16 wads in the Hodgdon reloading table.
The SG16 wad is the Gualandi GU1621 in Precision Reloading's catalog, if I understand this correctly.
Mark

Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 33

Any news from Hodgdon?
Mark

Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 33

If the BP G/BP is the SG16, then what is the BP/SPTG16? Why would you have 2 different nomenclatures for the same wad in the same data?

Anything from Hodgdon yet?

Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 728

I had the same question regarding what the difference was between the BP B/GP and BP/SPTG16 abbreviations on the Hodgdon web site since no abbreviation key is provided anywhere in the data. Comparing the catalog pictures of the Gualandi and Ballistic Products 16 gauge wads on the web sites and the reloading data for both however, I would bet dollars to donuts that they are identical or so close that they are interchangeable if you use a recipe(s) that don't push the top end of your chamber pressure limit.

Guest

BPI and Precision Reloading like to make wads 'their own', it gives the look of having something that no one else carries. It also makes the reloader buy loading data from that company, I know I was, at one time, part of this sales tactic.

My issue with it then and now is that it is confusing to the reloader and ends up being a frustration, and I believe actually turns the guys off reloading.

The wads in question appear to be wads from both Gualandi and B & P (Baschieri & Pellagri). I will not try to identify these wads but just trying to let you folks know about the nonsense that goes on. Both Gualandi and B & P, have item numbers for their wads I wish that BPI and Precision would use them and make the products they sell more user friendly.

A quick phone call to either company should clear up the issue. While you are on the line with them, a little bit of gentlemanly complaining to their customer service people might get through, about 50 phone calls should do it. Make them identify the wad properly.

I just looked at both Precision and BPI websites, Precision does at least identify the actual Company that makes the wad, but neither gives any real hint to what actual wad they are selling. At BPI the Trap Commander is definitely the B & P 16 ga wad and the Sporting 16 is a Gualandi.

Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 311

The BPI wads are sold in a bag that is labeled:

G/BP (in huge type)
16 gauge
Sporting 16 Wads
072SG16

It's not really clear what BPI wants you to call them.