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< 16ga. Ammunition & Reloading ~ using spacers in 16 gauge loads |
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:10 am
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I am loading up some 7/8 target loads using Remington game load hulls, alliant unique and a winchester AA clone wad. I need to take up some space in the wad to get this load to crimp up right. To take up the space I made a punch to punch out Styrofoam disks out of meat trays. My question is : Does it make any difference if I put the spacer in the bottom of the shot cup or on top of the shot? I notice that shot tends to stick to the styrofoam disks in the bottom of the shot cup-I am not sure if this will effect shot string at 1200 fps. |
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:44 am
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It will make no difference, top or bottom, put it where it's easiest for you. |
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:39 pm
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robp wrote: |
I am loading up some 7/8 target loads using Remington game load hulls, alliant unique and a winchester AA clone wad. I need to take up some space in the wad to get this load to crimp up right. To take up the space I made a punch to punch out Styrofoam disks out of meat trays. My question is : Does it make any difference if I put the spacer in the bottom of the shot cup or on top of the shot? I notice that shot tends to stick to the styrofoam disks in the bottom of the shot cup-I am not sure if this will effect shot string at 1200 fps.
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Put the spacer in the cup. If neede you can put an overshot card on top of the shot. |
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:25 pm
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Put it where ever it is convenient. The styrofoam disc will disintegrate a millisecond after the powder is ignited. |
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:30 pm
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Joined: 07 Oct 2008
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Location: MO Ozarks
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robp -
Would you provide your complete recipe, please? I'm loading something similar, but using a cheerio in the bottom of the wad cup. |
_________________ BCP
"Life is tough, but it's tougher if your stupid." - John Wayne |
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:15 pm
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2 parts rye wiskey
1 part sweet vermouth
2 dashes of bitters
stir with ice in shaker
stain into a chilled glass
add maraschino cherry
oh wait your talking 16 gauge loads
remington black game load hull
winchester 209 primer
15.8 grains unique
winchester AA 16 clone
7/8 once of 8s
There is a similar receipe off the low pressure group data that call for a remington sp hull it says 1210 fps and 8700 psi the data does not mention any thing about a spacer
Must be a difference in the hull I thought all remington hull were the same
So far these loads are crimping really inconsistant and thats with weight each component |
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Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:39 pm
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The Remington SP and GL cases are the same internally and use the same loading data. The only difference is one has green plastic, the other one is black. |
_________________ Dennis
Current 16ga. Stable
Browning Citori Gr I
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Remington 11-48
Remington 31
Remington 870
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:11 am
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Every time I pass the Cheerios in the Grocery aisle my mind automatically thinks "Reloading Supplies". |
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:32 am
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I tried that and got a ticket for baiting the field.
If your shot is sticking in the filler wads, putting a thin over shot card wad on top of the styrofoam will stop that. You can cut some out of a paper milk carton if you want to. Actually, it probably is not hurting a thing.
I suggest you call up Circle Fly wads on their 1-800 number (its on the web) and order some 1/8th inch thick, 28 ga or .50 cal nitro card wads in bulk. A 5k bulk pack will cost you a lot less than you might think. The time saved and the convenience is worth the price. One, 1/8 inch thick card wad displaces an almost exact 1/8 ounce of shot in the average 16 ga. plastic shot cup. |
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 4:34 am
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robp wrote: |
There is a similar receipe off the low pressure group data that call for a remington sp hull it says 1210 fps and 8700 psi the data does not mention any thing about a spacer
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Just because the load data doesn't mention the use of some kind of filler, doesn't mean none is required. I have found several loads, that I had to add filler to, in order to get a good crimp, that didn't call for them.
I hate filler, and will shorten the hull, before I add filler. |
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:12 am
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Isn't that a bit like shortening your legs to make the pants fit better?.....Sorry Dave, I just could not resist that one. |
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 7:27 am
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16gaugeguy wrote: |
Isn't that a bit like shortening your legs to make the pants fit better?.....Sorry Dave, I just could not resist that one.
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Yes it is, only a little less painfull. |
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:02 pm
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Holy Smoke robp!
I haven't known of anyone who could quote the recipe for a Manhattan in a L-O-N-G time You a 'barkeep' or just a connoiseur? |
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:16 pm
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woodcock wrote: |
Holy Smoke robp!
I haven't known of anyone who could quote the recipe for a Manhattan in a L-O-N-G time You a 'barkeep' or just a connoiseur?
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Man I haven't had a Manhattan, a Rob Roy or a Black Russian since before I went to Vietnam in 1968. I guess I've been spending too much time swilling beer (and a wee bit of Mr. Daniels elixir). Where has the time gone??? |
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Thu Mar 12, 2009 3:27 pm
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Location: Southern California
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Robp, instead of styrofoam try cardboard. Most corrugated cardboard is the same thickness and you don't get the sticking problem.
The best part it's free from markets, drugstores, etc. That's important if you were born cheap and you keep having relapses like I do. |
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