16ga.com ~ View topic - RGL's feeding & extracting problems, in a Pump Gun.

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I can't tell you why your shells are sticking in the chamber.

But I can tell you unless the shells you used were well over proof pressure, 18,000 PSI or so, it isn't pressure causing the problem. Pressures in a shotgun are not high enough to expand brass or steel enough to cause the problem you were having. The brass or plastic might have been oversized to begin with. I have seen proof loads function fire pumps and autos and they don't cause malfunctions they still eject normally.

I would chaulk it up to some poorly sized, manufactured hulls and send it back to the manufacturer for a refund or replacement.

Twice barrel, where did you get the info that the Italians load factory stuff hotter than anyone else? Not true sir.

TB,

I remember the box having "Made in Australia" printed on it. My timing is slightly off, I bought the gun in Nov '04 and the Super X's were some of the first ammo I put through it. So that would make it closer to 4 1/2 years.

Member Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1975

If I can step in here. I would agree with twice barrel. What I do is take a 3/8" wooden dowle and cut ahout a 1 1/2" slit in one end right down the middle. Get yourself some fine emery cloth Take a section of it and locking it in the dowel, then wrap it around untill you have a piece that just fits in the chamber. Put the dowel in a drill, drop some oil on the emery cloth and polish away. You will end up with chambers as smooth and shiney as a babies donkey.

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TB,

10,760 PSI is not even over the SAAMI maximum average of 11,500 PSI for the 16 gauge.

That is a very normal pressure for a factory loading.

You disagree because you can't imagine anything else causing the problem, it isn't high pressure.

Call Alliant or Hodgdon or Tom Armbrust or White Labs or Winchester or Remington or Beretta or Browning or Federal. Think about it, if loads that were truly within SAAMI guidelines would cause the case head to expand enought to tie up a pump or auto, don't you think that SAAMI as a group would have addressed the problem.

If you have had this problem with extraction because of high pressure, then the pressure would have been well over 20,000 PSI. So stop guessing or using some garbage reloading data.

By the way do you even understand what SAAMI voluntary guidelines are, and who SAAMI actually is. If you did you would realize how ridiculous your last statement is.

Holy Hoppin' Hanna!!! Can there be dissension between the two foremost members of my official post trailing escort service??

Boys!!! Boys!!! You forget yourselves and your sworn duty to dog my posts into oblivion!!! Now stop this nonsense and square yourselves away. You have an important mission to complete.

The very idea!!! For shame!!! Laughing

Member Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 1975

Twice barrel. Sorry I quess I didn't read your posts close enough and I just repeaated what you had allready said. Which was good advice. Keep those chambers clean.
You guys have 16GG shouting with glee. I can just see him jumping up and down in jis chair and shouting to the rooftops. Laughing

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Spr310 wrote:

You guys have 16GG shouting with glee. I can just see him jumping up and down in jis chair and shouting to the rooftops.

Yes, I'm enjoying myself immensely.... and I didn't even have to throw a bunch of bananas into the crowd to get things rolling. Laughing

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I guess we have at least one thing in common then. I've always thought our verbal duels are kinda like me fighting a guy who's brought a stick to a gun fight. Laughing

Have a banana??? Cool

A 10 ga. cotton bore mop & JB bore paste, connected to a low speed drill motor polishes a chamber/forcing cone very nice. Wink

My Son bought me a Chronograph for my B-day last may. And I proceeded to test my new toy on almost everything I reload for and some factory loads also.

With my Winchester 97/16 I tested some Winchester factory Super X # 6 shot, made in Australia. Below was the results.

Five shots fired;

#1 1192 fps Average velocity 1192 fps

#2 1189 fps Extreme spread 7 fps

#3 1191 fps Standard Diviation 2

#4 1192 fps

#5 1196 fps

This is the most consistant load I have ever tested with my Chronograph.

What ever the Quality problems in the past with Super X, I think they got the results now.

I am getting real tired of you guys insinuating that I have a fouled chamber in my gun. I am VERY anal about keeping my guns clean and I would bet that my guns are cleaner than those of the vast majority of gun owners. I also know how to polish a chamber or barrel having done it many times.

This was an ammunition problem, plain and simple. Look at the current problems with Rem GL's having hard primers and plastic so brittle the hulls crack. Maybe you guys think Winchester is above making a mistake. Sorry if I made a negative comment about someone's favorite load.

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Dennis neither I nor anyone else is insinuating that you don't take good care of your guns but a rough chamber is the major cause of guns that fail to eject spent hulls. Try another box of Super Xs or a couple reloads that duplicate muzzle velocity and chamber pressures of the current Super X and see what happens. In the 4 1/2 years since you first experienced the problem things may have changed either with your gun through repeated cleaning or with the ammunition. If after polishing out the chamber you still have a problem with the Super Xs send me a sales receipt and I will send you a check for them.