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My crummy old need-replacing iMac won't let me participate in the "16 gauge low pressure group" chat anymore, so please let me know if all of the following is already being discussed over there.

I think we need to have a place to discuss "who" is testing "what" hull/load for the new Downrange 16 gauge wad. That said, I'm assuming this will all undertaken by the "16 gauge low pressure group" members, or at least in partnership with the 16GLPG with data being reported to the group.

Hopefully we are testing all of the common hulls (Federal, Fiocchi, Chedditte, Rem, and any others).

I'll start.

Federal hull, 7/8 oz /International Clays

Federal Hull, 7/8 oz/American Select

If anyone is already testing these please post up. It doesn't matter who gets what done. With summer right around the corner it's time to get going on this, and shooting those sweet light loads at targets!

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Dave,

LPG isn't doing anything that I can see. So you aren't missing a thing.

I believe that trying to get a strategy going is going to be an excersise in frustration. Everyone has a different set of componenets and parameters (myself included), and since this is personal money, that's the way it goes.

I have 5 or 6 loads in mind, 2 are going to Precsion Reloading on Monday. I will share the results of all the tests I have done both good and bad.

The 2 going are:

16 Ga.Cheddite Green Hull 2 3/4"
Fed 209A Primer
20.0 Grs, American Select
DR-16 wad
3/4 ounce of lead shot

16 Ga.Cheddite Green Hull 2 3/4"
Fed 209A Primer
23.0 Grs, Universal
DR-16 wad
7/8 ounce of lead shot

I have played around with a few 3/4 oz. combinations, but they haven't reliably functioned my 1100, so most of the stuff I do will be 7/8 oz. The 3/4 oz. load above seemed very good in my pumpguns so I will proceed with it and maybe another 3/4 oz. for my Model 12 in a 2 9/16" load also.

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Well, let's at least try to get a sense of what is being tested.

Is anyone planning on testing a 7/8 oz Fiocchi-hull load?

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"16 Ga.Cheddite Green Hull 2 3/4"
Fed 209A Primer
20.0 Grs, American Select
DR-16 wad
3/4 ounce of lead shot

16 Ga.Cheddite Green Hull 2 3/4"
Fed 209A Primer
23.0 Grs, Universal
DR-16 wad
7/8 ounce of lead shot "

GMTA! (Great Minds Think Alike), 20gr of Green Dot here with the DR16 for the 3/4oz,
and 24gr of Herco with a Gu1621 for the 7/8oz, Rio primers.
Same hull,,,,,,, love to hear the results of your loads. Might be able to bump mine up a grain or so with the slower powders.
Cheers,
R*2

Member Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 98 Location: Ballwin, MO

I plan on testing both the Fiocchi and Nobel Sport hulls with 7/8 oz loads, and 15.0 gr H-Clays with the DR-16 wad in hopes of finding a load around 1200 fps for targets using the same powder that I use in the 12 ga. If Clays doesn't work, the Universal should, which is what I use in 20 and 28 ga. I have them loaded, I just need to get off my backside and send them in to Tom for testing.

Hi USAF1, glad to know you are back to enjoying your shotguns again. I think you should be on the right track with International Clays. 16 to 16.5 grains under the new wad in a Cheddite type hull should give you about what you want. IC is a near duplicate of Green Dot except for having a slightly lighter density. I used 16 grains of GD under the new wad in a Remington hull with 3/4 ounces of shot for a great performing, easy to shoot skeet load. I'ver been using the same charge weight for my 7/8 ounce loads as well without any problems. I ran it all past the folks at Alliant a couple or three yeras ago and got the green light. Hope the info helps you find a starting place for your desired load. Good luck.

What kind od f pressures are we looking at with the IC powder 7/8 oz shot ,the discussed wad and Fiochi hulls???? I'm loading a bunch of stuff right now for a Vintagers shoot at NRA Whittington in a couple of weeks...Gonna shoot a couple of 16's

Member Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 348 Location: Missouri

Member Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 98 Location: Ballwin, MO

16gg - I was hoping to use H-Clays, instead of Int'l Clays, for the light target loads since that is what I use in the 12 ga/7/8 oz loads. I know the pressure in the 16 ga will be higher than in the 12 ga, but the LPG has a few loads with 17 gr. of Clays, giving higher pressures and velocity than I need, so I was hoping that around 15 gr of H-Clays will bring the pressure and velocity down to acceptable levels. These loads will be used in a BPS and a Citori, so I am hoping for under 10K psi. I just want to see if I can get a good target load without having to buy another powder! If not, I can always fall back to H-Universal.

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I'll be sending the following out for testing on Friday:

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16GG. Why do you keep saying that Alliant has purchased all these companies? They were all purchased by ATK. Maybe Weaver set up the QC for CCI as they are in the same family.
http://www.atk.com/customer_solutions_armamentsystems/cs_as_cammo_default.asp